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My stock Cummins pump had England stamped on it.

Regcabguy, I am curious as to how many miles your water pump lasted (the one with England stamped on it)? Was it the original water pump? The reason I ask is that I have 2002 Dodge Cummins (original owner) and at 215,000 miles I replaced that water pump as a maintenance procedure - it was operating just fine. That water pump also has England stamped on it.

Over the years my friends and family have purchased Dodge trucks with the Cummins (from 2003 through 2007). I have replaced water pumps on all but one of them. It seems that this era truck has lots of water pump problems. Here is a list each different truck (all but the 2007 are original owners):

2003 Auto, 35,000 miles - water pump failed (leaking, followed by bearing failure), covered by warranty
2003 Manual, under 90,000 miles - water pump failed (leaking and noisy)
2004.5 Manual, 110,000 miles - water pump failed (leaking), 125,000 miles - second one failed (leaking)
2007 Auto, under 90,000 miles - water pump failed (leaking, followed by bearing failure), 120,000 miles - second one failed (leaking)

I also have worked on lots of older Dodges with the Cummins, but have yet to replace a water pump. The only one I have replaced is my own - which had not failed. I am not saying these failures don't occur on older trucks - just that it doesn't seem to be nearly as frequent. I wonder if Cummins changed their source for water pumps in 2003 when this era of truck came out.

I noticed that most of these posts are referring to replaced water pumps and most signatures reflect 2003 through 2007 trucks. Has anyone experienced high mileage on their waters pumps on older trucks (2002 and older)?

I know that I will keep my well-used England water pump with me as a backup since I do not have much faith in the replacement water pump.

John
 
I noticed that most of these posts are referring to replaced water pumps and most signatures reflect 2003 through 2007 trucks. Has anyone experienced high mileage on their waters pumps on older trucks (2002 and older)?

I know that I will keep my well-used England water pump with me as a backup since I do not have much faith in the replacement water pump.

John


I am at 111000 on orig water pump and have no issues (I did buy a Cummins water pump as a spare that I carry in my truck).

George
 
What is a good on-line source for an OEM Cummins water pump?

The best online source is probably Cummins. Click on "Support", then "Online Parts and Services" and create an account. If you don't mind driving you have an actual Cummins Southern Plains facility in Amarillo, Texas - (806) 373-3793.
 
Can someone provide the Cummins part number for the water pump for my 2005? When I stop by my local Cummins store I want to make sure I get the correct part.

Thanks
 
Take your ESN of the data tag on the engine and Cummins will look up the correct part. I think it is the same for the 5.9's but they want an ESN to be sure.
 
Regcabguy, I am curious as to how many miles your water pump lasted (the one with England stamped on it)? Was it the original water pump? The reason I ask is that I have 2002 Dodge Cummins (original owner) and at 215,000 miles I replaced that water pump as a maintenance procedure - it was operating just fine. That water pump also has England stamped on it.

Over the years my friends and family have purchased Dodge trucks with the Cummins (from 2003 through 2007). I have replaced water pumps on all but one of them. It seems that this era truck has lots of water pump problems. Here is a list each different truck (all but the 2007 are original owners):

2003 Auto, 35,000 miles - water pump failed (leaking, followed by bearing failure), covered by warranty
2003 Manual, under 90,000 miles - water pump failed (leaking and noisy)
2004.5 Manual, 110,000 miles - water pump failed (leaking), 125,000 miles - second one failed (leaking)
2007 Auto, under 90,000 miles - water pump failed (leaking, followed by bearing failure), 120,000 miles - second one failed (leaking)

I also have worked on lots of older Dodges with the Cummins, but have yet to replace a water pump. The only one I have replaced is my own - which had not failed. I am not saying these failures don't occur on older trucks - just that it doesn't seem to be nearly as frequent. I wonder if Cummins changed their source for water pumps in 2003 when this era of truck came out.

I noticed that most of these posts are referring to replaced water pumps and most signatures reflect 2003 through 2007 trucks. Has anyone experienced high mileage on their waters pumps on older trucks (2002 and older)?

I know that I will keep my well-used England water pump with me as a backup since I do not have much faith in the replacement water pump.

John

My OEM was fine @ 65K. I had a very unusual coolant leak that turned out to be the lower water outlet(inlet? can't remember) at the block. I had Pablo Madrid a member here and fine Cummins tech throw a OEM back on there at that time. Bearing and seal on the stocker seemed fine.
 
I replaced my pump at 93K miles when the engine was out at it was working great. My dad replaced his at 123K when other maintenance was going on at it was opening great.
 
Am I reading this right....a new Mopar water pump for my 2005 CTD is $181 while the Gates at Genos is $37? Am I looking at the right parts for my truck? I'm not too keen on putting a Gates on my truck and will be going with the OEM, but I question the disparity in prices.

Here's how my water pump job went. It's still good- just did a pulley slop check.
 
I use Cummins Southern Plains in Houston for my Cummins parts needs. Call them on the phone with the last 8 of the vin. Order and pay over the phone and it is shipped to my door. I have even had them overnight things for me before. They are awesome to work with. Once they were shipping a part for my truck that was down and trying to get it fixed before the weekend. Done the next day shipping with them. The part didn't show up the next morning like it should. Called them and they had missed the deadline for next day out of Houston. They shipped it next day the second day free of shipping charge and it came next day. Can't ask for more than that. It is nice to be a little fish and get class A service like a big fish! This type of service used to be the standard and it is nice to see that Cummins still provides it.
 
Can anyone confirm that this is the correct water pump for my 2005? This is what the local diesel shop ordered for me and I want to be 100% sure!

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Thanks gentlemen for checking. I'm going to put it under my rear seat and head out on my hunting trip. Hopefully I won't need it anytime soon.
 
Thanks gentlemen for checking. I'm going to put it under my rear seat and head out on my hunting trip. Hopefully I won't need it anytime soon.

My 0.02 is the swap it out and make a cross-country box with the old one since it still works.

I replaced mine preventativly and did just that.
 
My water pump went out last week for first time at 115,000 miles. Just a drip at first, then a few more so i was planning to get it fixed when wifes van transmission went out so waited another week while she used my truck.
Pump failed on the way into church parking lot, threw the belt off and lost quite a bit of coolant and had to tow it to shop. Now has a china part on it. Been a baaaad week for vehicles for us.

Im going to track the miles on it.
 
same issue Gates pump is leaking now only replaced 6 months ago. Warm weather comes and ill replace with Cummins. Don't use the Gates !!
 
I had a Gates that lasted as long as the factory pump. As usual made China just a bad run of them. Back to running a Cummins
 
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