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Competition Nitrous the "right" way....

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Competition How is the GT42 as a single?

COMP461 said:
its ok , 11 kits went out the door this week





Comp,



That's a start :-laf Don't get discouraged sales will pick up. Heck next week you may get up to 22 kits :D Keep on plugging.



On edit -You need to turn the posting back over to Mike. I am sure he doesnt want his sales #'s posted on a public forum. :confused:



Dennis
 
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COMP461 said:
dont you have something else to do, like make your kits a better value ,



Comp,



I am pleased with my nitrous sales and so is the end user. We dont ship a bag full of solenoids, relays & switches. It is a kit combined with electronics. Comp, rule of thumb when you add electronics to any kit it will make the cost go up. It is designed for simplicity. If I only shipped 11 kits this week then I would be focusing on my nitrous sales. :rolleyes: :-laf



Dennis
 
Stefan Kondolay said:
Chris, I wouldn't worry about this, if banshee sig is right he only makes 85hp worth of NOS and he uses NX anyway so there probably is better placement yet.



Oooh Oooh... tell me what color my truck is too! You're correct, I only gain 85 hp, but with less than . 060 worth of nitrous. Just imagine the gains with a larger dose.....





I think he is only talking about placement anyway, not which kit is better.



correct. I put my system together for about $400 total, but I didn't have the intention to make huge nitrous gains. Had then been the case then Dennis would have been the first call. 10. 9s in a pro street truck speaks volumes to me.
 
DennisPerry said:
Comp,



I am pleased with my nitrous sales and so is the end user. We dont ship a bag full of solenoids, relays & switches. It is a kit combined with electronics. Comp, rule of thumb when you add electronics to any kit it will make the cost go up. It is designed for simplicity. If I only shipped 11 kits this week then I would be focusing on my nitrous sales. :rolleyes: :-laf



Dennis

except in this case it is much less expensive , and this is the first week, . but when its really starts to get rolling is when you will cry to the modarators , I'm surprised they havent pulled this thread .
 
COMP461 said:
except in this case it is much less expensive , and this is the first week, . but when its really starts to get rolling is when you will cry to the modarators , I'm surprised they havent pulled this thread .



Comp,



1st week? They have been making Bullydog's kits since I know 2000.



Dennis
 
OH MY GOD I'm going to end my life cuz banshee hates me and won't tell me his secret nozzle placement or what parts he is using---come on.....



look guys and banshee the jest of my post to TJ's response was agreeing on how no one likes to help anyone out anymore--I should have made that clear, not just typing a quick response to TJ, as TJ was specific when he reponded to your post banshee, bad on me and I should have read TJ's post again before I responded after banshee laid one on me, to make that clear--again bad on me--so I'm sorry for that--



I really don't care where your nozzle is banshee, but when a guy says he did this and then does the secret sauce thing, it is frustrating to guys seeking info--'ell if a guy can save a dime why not, TJ's first post is showing that frustration and he's dead on that you got your info from Dennis on his second post, thus saving you time and money---unless of course I'm sworn to secrecy(I haven't been since HVAC passed on)--were you sworn to secrecy, if so you should've said so and then I wouldn't be here typing this and John P wouldn't be telling me about my posting habits... .



John P--I just try and state facts, as I personally know them, when I post info...



the only reason I'm on this thread is to see what COMP is up to, that is not to be taken like I'm against him or for him, cuz I don't know--I do know that he gets some guys riled up and that what makes sense for a full out race truck may not make sense for the daily driver, dyno truck, sledpuller or part time drag racer and vice versa, but he does get some action going that's for sure and who knows he might be right on this progressive thing, but I don't know, thus it's nice to see Dennis responding, cuz there's always two sides to the coin usually and we need to see both sides.....



as for Dennis I think we all know he is very knowledgeable, as he's been at this a long time and I would agree that more would agree with him than COMP and at this moment that includes me...



but I'm trying to be a little open minded, because I've been wondering about a progressive controller for my system and if it would be beneficial and there's not much info out there, thus this thread caught my eye---chris
 
COMP 461:



I think Dennis is right on target about your posts ACTUALLY being those of Mike Wood because I heard the exact same thing!! :-laf Amazing how fast news travels through the diesel world. This thread with you is almost as funny as the one you posted in your "Ultimate Diesel Drag Truck Thread" or whatever you named it about two months ago. You remember,..... the one where you posted the picture of that "Virtual Works" Toyota Supra Header and then tried to make the membership believe you made the damn thing!! :eek: Unfortunately for you,... ... one of the members here with a sharp eye caught your lie!! Believe it or not all those things might be hurting your "credibility" a little there COMP!!



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John_P
 
csutton:



O. K. ,... ... your explanation sounds fair enough to me! Like you, I try to just state facts as I personally know them too. As far as COMP 461 is concerend, I am not going to say anymore than I already have! There is NO DOUBT in my mind that Dennis Perry has alot more knowledge and experience with nitrous systems than COMP personally does, regardless of what COMP wants us all to think! :-laf Saying you can do something is one thing, but going out on a drag strip and PROVING you can do it is something else indeed! We all KNOW Dennis can do it because we have all seen his truck run time and time again. Now, he has helped Jeff and his crew get their trucks over 1000 H. P. !



Also like you, I am here to learn more about these nitrous systems and thus my original interest in this thread.



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John_P
 
csutton7 said:
OH MY GOD I'm going to end my life cuz banshee hates me and won't tell me his secret nozzle placement or what parts he is using---come on.....



look guys and banshee the jest of my post to TJ's response was agreeing on how no one likes to help anyone out anymore--I should have made that clear, not just typing a quick response to TJ, as TJ was specific when he reponded to your post banshee, bad on me and I should have read TJ's post again before I responded after banshee laid one on me, to make that clear--again bad on me--so I'm sorry for that--



I really don't care where your nozzle is banshee, but when a guy says he did this and then does the secret sauce thing, it is frustrating to guys seeking info--'ell if a guy can save a dime why not, TJ's first post is showing that frustration and he's dead on that you got your info from Dennis on his second post, thus saving you time and money---unless of course I'm sworn to secrecy(I haven't been since HVAC passed on)--were you sworn to secrecy, if so you should've said so and then I wouldn't be here typing this and John P wouldn't be telling me about my posting habits... .



John P--I just try and state facts, as I personally know them, when I post info...



the only reason I'm on this thread is to see what COMP is up to, that is not to be taken like I'm against him or for him, cuz I don't know--I do know that he gets some guys riled up and that what makes sense for a full out race truck may not make sense for the daily driver, dyno truck, sledpuller or part time drag racer and vice versa, but he does get some action going that's for sure and who knows he might be right on this progressive thing, but I don't know, thus it's nice to see Dennis responding, cuz there's always two sides to the coin usually and we need to see both sides.....



as for Dennis I think we all know he is very knowledgeable, as he's been at this a long time and I would agree that more would agree with him than COMP and at this moment that includes me...



but I'm trying to be a little open minded, because I've been wondering about a progressive controller for my system and if it would be beneficial and there's not much info out there, thus this thread caught my eye---chris



Chris, I hope you don't mind me using a couple of your quotes to make a point. None of this is directed at you Chris, just in general. ;)



You said TJ was pointing out no one likes to help out anymore. You also stated him wanting to save a dime. Both statements I agree with but honestly what I have found is that folks say they want help, or want to save money, but in fact they don't.



Right now there is a 740hp 12v running around GA on the streets daily for a couple of years that has run multiple 11. 0's @ 123 mph. It was done without camshafts, high dollar turbo's, laser cut delivery valves, EDM injectors, polished and ported stage 75 head, fly cut pistons etc. etc. But try to tell someone about it and you get a thread like this where someone is gonna go off talking about high dollar cool stuff that is the WORST value for your performance $$ out there. They will tell you this truck won't live, I'm not telling the truth about it, or better, yet if you'll buy (insert your fantasy list of parts here) you'll make 1000 - 1200 hp.



This thread is a result of exactly that. I posted about a 951hp dyno graph and that more was to come. I mentioned the components used to get there. Greg saw the opportunity to get his stuff out on the coat tails of my post and immediately started with the bells and whistles of the NX system and how it was far superior to the others. It then turned into a NX / TS debate over which system was better. You know, at this point I really don't care. Fact is, Dennis has a 1055hp dyno graph that his N2O kit earned some credit for making it happen.



The mythical 1000hp has been talked about for years. In one week Garmon's diesel put up 951, then 1055 using a TS kit. The next week, we took another truck and made 904 hp, first try, with the same kit. I don't know how to make it easier. The years of waiting for 1000 hp ended, yet now we gotta "one up it" or look for a "better solution". If anyone wants to create a variation of what made 1000hp, go ahead. You may do better, and you may not. But that is not looking for the less expensive or time saving ways to do it.



I've always said, you wanna go fast, talk to those that are.
 
David---that's some very good info and truth to boot--



sometimes a 12v weighs heavy on my mind, but since I bought a 24v I want to stick with it--



and you can quote me anytime--in fact anyone can, but I'm not sure I'm that quoteful...



also I'm very impressed with Garmon's doings lately--'ell not lately I've always been impressed with what he accomplishes..... chris
 
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Chris... your right . . you need to search out a progressive Nitrous system... progressively insane from the bottom all the way to the Governor... how's old smoke'a'saurus running anyway? :p :-laf
 
ol smokeasaurus is limping along--removed the twins and am now down to the ol ancient B1 --it has a cracked exhaust housing and not just a little either and the ATS manifold is cracked also--but I have no other option until my other turbo gets here--hopefully very soon--and then I can start to work out the new piping for the twins again or at least run the new single for awhile--until then I'm on power restriction--no box, no nitrous--need to keep the heat and boost down--chris
 
Gene... ... ..... As hard as you may want it to be so, you missed the boat on this one. Cool air is just that. I guess you're older than I thought, old ways are hard to let go of. O well, the world goes on.



. . Preston. .
 
With that train of thought, you will be bolting on spark plugs, coil, a distributor and alcohol and claiming it is advancing the sport.



I have nothing but respect for TS and Garmon, but in the eyes of a true Diesel head purist, they took a shortcut to go fast and put big numbers down.



That doesn't mean I won't be cheering them on as they continue to set records.

But if someone were to get it front of them with no bottle... ... . Oo. I love Diesel fuel, I can't help it.
 
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