No more 5.0 in the Titan

[JR]

So it appears the 5.0 is dead by year's end. Its too bad, not that I'd ever own one but competition and choices across the lineup is always a good thing. Especially with all the regulations trying to put a choke hold on diesel. Wonder how much of a strain this puts on the 5.0 platform, and if Cummins has any takers down the road.

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2...efreshed-diesel-free-titan-line/#more-1683776

 

[Wayne M.]

Sad, but though I’ve never driven or even seen one in person, I could never warm up to this mill. It’s just not “Cummins enough” for me.
BTW, look at that GM in-line 6 design. I feel the same way about that engine.

 

[GrantP]

I've seen a few of them running around in my area, never had a chance to talk to an owner though. It seems like this engine was DOA 10 years ago. Maybe FCA will rethink their decision to abandon it in the 1500. Doesn't matter, I still don't want one.

 

[TMyers]

A builder friend bought one and brags on it. Only problems he's had is when a local fueling stop put one of the 2.5 gallon boxes of DEF in his fuel tank. It lite his dash up like a Christmas tree.

 

[TFucili]

That whole package was ill-conceived. Too heavy to be light, too light to be heavy, and not spectacular MPG.

 

[AH64ID]

I just saw 2 on a 7 mile drive. They are out there, but I agree it’s not the correct build specs.

Wonder why they are cancelling it thou??

Are there any other volume users of the 5.0?

 

[JR]

I just saw 2 on a 7 mile drive. They are out there, but I agree it’s not the correct build specs.

Wonder why they are cancelling it thou??

Are there any other volume users of the 5.0?

The 2020 is supposed to be a major refresh, probably the best time to make a change like this.

Just the other day I saw an article stating Nissan sold something like 50,000 Titans in all of 2018. I didn't see the numbers on the 5.0 but it must be a very small take rate.

I'd have to double check but im pretty sure Ford sells that many trucks in a month or close to it.

 

[jgillott]

That whole package was ill-conceived. Too heavy to be light, too light to be heavy, and not spectacular MPG.

If you guys remember, I tried really hard to like it when I was after my last 1/2 ton. Test drove at least 3 of them if I remember correctly.

As you said, it has similar or lower payload, towing, and MPG numbers than say a well optioned big 3 1/2 ton and was priced at a HD truck price point. It would have been just as cheap to buy another HD Ram, Ford, or GM and call it a day instead of the Cummins powered Titan.

 

[NIsaacs]

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Total Ford trucks
2019 71,537 71,537 71,537 77,929 77,929 77,929 448,398
2018 58,937 68,243 87,011 73,104 84,639 79,204 70,949 81,839 75,092 70,438 72,102 87,772 909,330
2017 57,995 65,956 81,330 70,657 76,027 77,895 69,467 77,007 82,302 75,974 72,769 89,385 896,764
2016 51,540 60,697 73,884 70,774 67,412 70,937 65,657 66,946 67,809 65,542 72,089 87,512 820,799
2015 54,370 55,236 67,706 62,827 61,870 55,171 66,288 71,332 69,651 65,500 65,192 85,211 780,354
2014 46,536 55,882 70,940 63,387 68,520 60,560 63,240 68,109 59,863 63,410 59,049 74,355 753,851

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrgDaPH4UldS3kA5yJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByb2lvbXVuBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1565151816/RO=10/RU=http://fordauthority.com/fmc/ford-motor-company-sales-numbers/ford-sales-numbers/ford-f-series-sales-numbers//RK=2/RS=8k.ZwwAMMMfoZsT5CO_fQSbm91Q-

 

[Wayne M.]

Any time I see a titan, it’s never the XD.

 

[One2doo]

I drove one and wasn’t impressed.

 

[AH64ID]

Any time I see a titan, it’s never the XD.

Interesting. I don’t see many non-XD’s anymore and most XD’s I see are the Cummins.

 

[GrantP]

Interesting. I don’t see many non-XD’s anymore and most XD’s I see are the Cummins.

No offense to Wayne but I suspect it's a regional thing. The odds of spying one of these trucks in ID or AZ is probably much greater than NY.

 

[TFucili]

This town is chock-full of diesel pickups, and you are more likely to see Sasquatch than an XD Cummins.

 

[Wayne M.]

Now that I’m thinking about it, are all Titans XD’s? is that a trim level? I was behind one just this morn. It was a XD, but had a puny tailpipe.

 

[GrantP]

This town is chock-full of diesel pickups, and you are more likely to see Sasquatch than an XD Cummins.

Yeah but that's Wickenburg, you have to be a city slicker to drive an XD.

 

[TFucili]

Yeah but that's Wickenburg, you have to be a city slicker to drive an XD.

You've got a point, there!

 

[JR]

Now that I’m thinking about it, are all Titans XD’s? is that a trim level? I was behind one just this morn. It was a XD, but had a puny tailpipe.

XD is a trim level with either the 5.6 gasser or 5.0 Cummins as options. On paper, the 5.6 should be a good engine, roughly 400 hp/400tq mated to a 7 speed trans.

 

[BDaugherty]

A friend of mine had a XD with the Cummins. According to him it had severe electrical problems and the dealer techs didn’t know how to work on it. Ended up having the engine replaced under warranty and then traded it in on something different.

 

[Learjet]

couple of them in the campground this weekend