oil?

[RIDGERACING]

Coming up on 1st oil change. I plan to go to syn. after 20k. What is the best conventional oil? Also I get confused when I read (dino) what is that?THX

 

[JRD]

dino is the same thing as conventional. Its just what we call it around here. Alot of people here run Delo 400 or Rotella T from shell. Your truck from the factory came with Valvoline Premium Blue. The stuff at your dealer in the Mopar bottles is also Valv. Prem. Blue. All 3 are good oils. Its like asking which color is the best, everyone has their favorite. I personally run Delo 400.

 

[WMoroni]

I'm running rotella t. The only bad thing about it is that you can smell it for a few hundred miles after an oil change.

 

[BILLUA]

I have run most conventionals and the best numbers always came back from the Dello!



It is an outstanding dino... The ONLY reason I have switched to Mobil 1 05w40 SUV is because of the extreme conditions faced here in the desert southwest... 120 degrees OAT towing in the mountains...



If the wear numbers for some reason come back worse than Dello, I will switch back without blinking. .





If I lived in the midwest, or more moderate climate, I would run nothing but Dello.

 

[Doughboy21kd]

I have worked on CAT motors at a local diesel shop, and you can always tell when someone is running DELO 400 in there motor, cause when you pull out the cam its all covered with sludge(gross and not fun to play in). Thats the deposits that the oil leaves behind when the oil breaks down... . And thats the only oil i have ever seen do that.

 

[Diesel Power]

personally the all the top conventional oils are good ----as far as conventional standards are concerned, all being close in wear ,flow, and depost test, delo comes out just ahead of the others. now when you are talking syn oil, i chose Amsoil,works fine for me. good luck

 

[GAllen]

DELO is fairly popular, and is what I, and my group of "diesel buddies" use. The truth is if you use any properly rated oil and follow the scheduled service intervals, your engine will last longer than you'll ever need.

 

[jacqnbill]

personally the all the top conventional oils are good ----as far as conventional standards are concerned, all being close in wear ,flow, and depost test, delo comes out just ahead of the others. now when you are talking syn oil, i chose Amsoil,works fine for me. good luck

What type of Amsoil? I get confused looking at their web site. I pull 28,000 gross in the desert and the mountains and need the best protection.

 

[draymorris]

Save your money

Stay with conventional, take oil samples to help you know what it is doing, then you can develop your own opinions. Synthetics are not always better. I have good reason to say this, but its too long and I don't want to go there again.



I run Delo and have a good freind who runs Rotella with Lucas Oil stabilizer. He said that they had some oil sampling done while conducting their own studies. The Rotella and Delo samples were the same. Adding Lucas helped. Therefor he runs Rotella becuase he can buy it in 5 gal pails at Walmart - 2. 5 gallon of Rotella and a . 5 gallon of Lucas makes a change and works out even. He and I both do 10K on our trucks and I have mine sampled at every oil change - no problems.



Good luck.

 

[Diesel Power]

i use the 15w-40 amsoil 100% synthetic for my race trucks and daily driver trucks,regardless of what any ones oppinion is. . NO conventional oil will out perform amsoil fluids, or even synthetics for that matter---at least no one has ever tried to go head to head with amsoil fluids----and put it on paper!!!!

and that lucas junk!! just ask stefan at DTT why they dont use it any more, i cant remember how many people have blown motors with that stuff, but he is one of them!!!! :-laf

 

[todt061458]

My new 06 is not in my sig line yet but on my 01 and my 06 I run Amsoil series 3000 never any problems.

 

[MMeier]

i use the 15w-40 amsoil 100% synthetic for my race trucks and daily driver trucks,regardless of what any ones oppinion is. . NO conventional oil will out perform amsoil fluids, or even synthetics for that matter---at least no one has ever tried to go head to head with amsoil fluids----and put it on paper!!!!

and that lucas junk!! just ask stefan at DTT why they dont use it any more, i cant remember how many people have blown motors with that stuff, but he is one of them!!!! :-laf

I don't recall anyone saying they lost an engine here because of the Lucas product, what up with that ??

 

[pwr2tow]

Just wanted to point out that the mobil truck & SUV is no longer diesel rated for anything but an old old diesel and I would even use it in that. It is something like SM/CF rated. mobil now markets there diesel oil under another name which I do not remember and mobil Delvac 1.

Mobil truck & SUV used to be diesel compatable at CI+4/SL but like I said it's no longer marketed for diesel trucks, it has the gasoline donut stamp on it now.



There are probably some old truck & SUV bottles on the shelf with a CI+4/SL rating so look before buying.



Sorry I couldn't be of more help on the new marketed name of mobil products for diesel trucks.

 

[pwr2tow]

Just had a person PM asking how I know so I'll answer here also.



I saw it myself at wal-mart Saturday, 02/18/2006

 

[BILLUA]

Hmm, do you smoke crack?



You honestly want me to belive that MOBIL developed, certified and then sold the oil only to go OPP's my bad! The oil is NOT rated CI4.



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Product Description



Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is engineered for hard-working gasoline and diesel engines. Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is a high performance, fully synthetic engine oil that provides unsurpassed lubrication and extreme temperature performance for today's gasoline and diesel engines operating in severe applications.







Features and Benefits



Mobil 1 Truck and SUV provides outstanding performance and protection for hardworking engines where towing, hauling and severe service are standard daily requirements.









Exceptional high temperature protection for hot running engines under heavy load.

Excellent low temperature protection for quick and easy start-ups in cold weather.

Keeps engines clean through outstanding resistance to high temperature varnish and low temperature sludge deposit formation.

Excellent oil consumption control

Outstanding wear protection and performance reserve to maximize engine life

Provides owners of both gasoline and diesel engines a single solution for exceptional performance and protection



Applications





Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is a 5W-40 viscosity grade product and is recommended by ExxonMobil where 5W-30, 10W-30 and 15W-40 lubricants are specified. Consult your owner's manual for specific manufacturer recommendations which may be required for warranty protection.

Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is recommended for use in gasoline and diesel powered trucks and SUVs built by Ford, GM, and DaimlerChrysler.

Mobil 1 Truck and SUV further meets the diesel engine requirements of Cummins, Powerstoke, Duramax and Navistar – for bigger, heavier duty truck applications, such as delivery vans and utility fleets.

Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is fully compatible with conventional engine oils.





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Specifications and Approvals



Mobil 1 Truck and SUV meets or exceeds the following industry specifications:



API gasoline engine standards SL,SJ

API diesel engine standards CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF

 

[Diesel Power]

I don't recall anyone saying they lost an engine here because of the Lucas product, what up with that ??

i was just replieing to a post that said synthetic was not always better!!

knowing that i was talking about amsoil---not just synthetic oil.

 

[pwr2tow]

Hmm, do you smoke crack?



You honestly want me to belive that MOBIL developed, certified and then sold the oil only to go OPP's my bad! The oil is NOT rated CI4.



... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .



Product Description



Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is engineered for hard-working gasoline and diesel engines. Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is a high performance, fully synthetic engine oil that provides unsurpassed lubrication and extreme temperature performance for today's gasoline and diesel engines operating in severe applications.







Features and Benefits



Mobil 1 Truck and SUV provides outstanding performance and protection for hardworking engines where towing, hauling and severe service are standard daily requirements.









Exceptional high temperature protection for hot running engines under heavy load.

Excellent low temperature protection for quick and easy start-ups in cold weather.

Keeps engines clean through outstanding resistance to high temperature varnish and low temperature sludge deposit formation.

Excellent oil consumption control

Outstanding wear protection and performance reserve to maximize engine life

Provides owners of both gasoline and diesel engines a single solution for exceptional performance and protection



Applications





Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is a 5W-40 viscosity grade product and is recommended by ExxonMobil where 5W-30, 10W-30 and 15W-40 lubricants are specified. Consult your owner's manual for specific manufacturer recommendations which may be required for warranty protection.

Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is recommended for use in gasoline and diesel powered trucks and SUVs built by Ford, GM, and DaimlerChrysler.

Mobil 1 Truck and SUV further meets the diesel engine requirements of Cummins, Powerstoke, Duramax and Navistar – for bigger, heavier duty truck applications, such as delivery vans and utility fleets.

Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is fully compatible with conventional engine oils.





Back to Top



Specifications and Approvals



Mobil 1 Truck and SUV meets or exceeds the following industry specifications:



API gasoline engine standards SL,SJ

API diesel engine standards CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF

You can take your crack smoking statement and shove it where the sun don't shine.



What you have is old information, the new truck & suv is not heavy duty diesel oil anymore. It is not CI-4/SL anymore.

 

[pwr2tow]

http://news.morningstar.com/news/BW/M02/D09/20060209005046.html?pgid=pfcustom1bt



The new oil is called mobil turbo diesel truck 5-40 and is rated for diesels.

The new truck and suv is 5-30 and not rated for diesels.

 

[BILLUA]

Hmm, sounds like the oil is just renamed, Not not rated for diesels anymore. .



At any rate, I will have an oil analysis with Mobil 1 5w 40 oil in about 4K



We'll see then if I continue to use it.

 

[BILLUA]

Tow Pro:



"Just wanted to point out that the mobil truck & SUV is no longer diesel rated for anything but an old old diesel and I would even use it in that. "



That statement basically says that the current oil is no longer rated. I Raised the BS flag on that statement. I apologize if your statement didn't exactly mean what you wanted it to say.