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[MarkEagleUSA]

We bought a Firestick a few years ago and used it quite a while. When we got a 4K TV, I bought a 4K Firestick. It is a LOT quicker than the standard and I've yet to have a buffering issue. I say all that to say, not all the streaming devices are the same. I thought the only difference between the two was the picture quality, but the speed difference was enough that we bought another 4K Firestick for the bedroom TV that's not 4K.

I think the 4K has more memory so it can buffer more.

 

[endoscott]

250 channels and you can't find anything you want to watch....it's crazy now. So much junk TV.

 

[kthaxton]

When we built the house in 2007, we did not install an Ethernet cable anywhere but at the computer. Lots of technology advances since then… A company was installing fiber last summer, but stopped about four miles from us. They said they wouldn’t have enough customers to continue our direction. I guess that’s the price we pay for where we live - I wouldn’t trade it!

While this is kind of a side-subject, some may find handy.....if your house is wired with coax (tv/cable) you can buy MOCA adapters and put ethernet over the coax lines and have wired connections where you have a coax plug.....and a MOCA adapter. It works just like it was actual ethernet, the only downside is you need a MOCA adapter at each location you want wired internet and one adapter to put the signal onto the coax wiring.

This is what I did in my house for the data hungry locations (kid's rooms and my two tv/theater setups).

Just to demonstrate....
-I plug a MOCA adapter into my router then the MOCA adapter into coax wall connector (this puts the internet signal on the coax lines throughout the house).
-at my home theater location downstairs (for example), I have another MOCA adapter that takes the signal from the coax line and puts it back to a typical CAT/Ethernet cable. Since I have multiple devices using internet at this location, and the fact that the MOCA adapter only has one ethernet port, I plug that port into an inexpensive 8 channel switch (see below), then all my device plug into that. If you have a tv antenna connected to the coax lines, they will still work with both signals.

This works significantly better than wifi if all my devices had to rely on that.

All this said, if you don't have many devices or users, it's likely not worth it.

MOCA Adapter
Amazon product ASIN B08TDVN14D
Network Switch
Amazon product ASIN B00A121WN6

 

[BSeyler]

Well, I bit the bullet and got our Internet speed increased. Twenty bucks more per month and it tripled the speed. Plus, they are sending me a new router. I just watched a little of 1923 and it didn’t stop once, so I think we’re good here. When we had Dish, they had raised our package to $120 per month, and we were paying $49 for Internet. We still pay for YouTube TV and Paramount+, but still better than Dish. Thanks for your input!

 

[Jim W]

O.K. Explain this to my simple mind. We have three TV’s, two are Smart TV’s and one has an Amazon Firestick that is attached (exercise room) .The two that are in question are the Smart TVs, both are 4K, one is an Vizio and the other is a LG.They were bought within a two months of each other, both are connected to the internet via a router with high speed internet. The LG can play THURSDAY Night Football on Amazon prime with no buffeting, the VIZIO will buffet the heck out of Thursday Night Football on Amazon Prime where you can’t watch the game. This was/is driving me nuts.

Both can play movies and any TV shows with no issues at all from either Dish, Netflix and or Amazon Prime. We used the Vizio the most since this is in the great room in our house.

 

[BSeyler]

Simple mind - that's me when it comes to all of the new technology. I feel like I'm living in a time warp. Old pickup, old tractors, etc. My happy place.

 

[BigPapa]

Just to help understand if you're not clear what buffering is, your device is constantly downloading ahead of what you're seeing so if it slows down your show doesn't stop. When it does stop and says "BUFFERING", what you are seeing has caught up with what's been downloaded and it has to stop until it downloads more.

Think of it like this, you're driving down the road and instead of having a fuel tank, there's a fellow in the bed with a fuel can pouring fuel into your truck. He would have to start pouring before you start driving and stay ahead of you or you'll run out of fuel. You hit a bump and he loses his balance and quits pouring. If he doesn't start back soon enough, you'll run out and have to stop until he catches up.

 

[BSeyler]

Thanks BigPapa. I think part of my technological ineptitude is self imposed.

 

[Ozymandias]

We recently signed up for Paramount+ so we can watch 1923. We use Apple TV for the most part, but have Netflix, prime, and a couple of others. We don’t have any problems with any of those. But, when we use Paramount+, it spends more time buffering than streaming. Before we pay more money for faster Internet, I thought I’d see if others were having this problem. Thoughts?

Hi Bud
Get Starlink, all problems solved then.
We use it for a couple month now and it is just GREAT!
Greetings Oz and Steffi

 

[BSeyler]

Hi Ozy,
I think we’re good to go on this, but thanks for your input. I took a quick look at the starlink map and I am not sure it’s offered right here.
Bud

 

[endoscott]

Can you get Starlink reception anywhere? Those are low earth orbit satellites right? I thought it was going to be a while before they were fully deployed. Is it 5G or 4G LTE. Portable so you can take it in your RV and stream? I didn't think our PepWave receiver/router would work either because both of our addresses said no on the Verizon website, but the guy told us they would work and they did. This technology is changing fast! I can see how mechanical things work, but this electronic stuff might as well be magic.

 

[Ozymandias]

Can you get Starlink reception anywhere? Those are low earth orbit satellites right? I thought it was going to be a while before they were fully deployed. Is it 5G or 4G LTE. Portable so you can take it in your RV and stream? I didn't think our PepWave receiver/router would work either because both of our addresses said no on the Verizon website, but the guy told us they would work and they did. This technology is changing fast! I can see how mechanical things work, but this electronic stuff might as well be magic.

Where ever you can see the sky.
Last addition is Alaska now.

https://www.starlink.com/map

Map shows residential plan, there is a wait-list for some areas.
Map is changing constantly for the better with every load of satellites they send into orbit each month.

Important - there is NO wait list for the RV plan if someone wants it desperately.

 

[Ozymandias]

This is not GSM system, you need the sat dish for it to work. But no problem for phone calls as it works for WIFI calling, just needs to be enabled in your phones settings.
The router it comes with has range of about 300ft.

 

[endoscott]

whats your monthly cost on that?

 

[Ozymandias]

115$ for Residential, I've RV for 135$ - same time I downgraded my Mobile plan by 90$ as we don't need the high data anymore.

 

[06 Dodge]

To use my LG smart TV to not have any buffering ( btw I have a 1 gigabit line that never has speeds lower then 440 meg) even after I upgraded to a top of the line WIFI box I've had to install a WIFI range extender for a TV that's is only 40 feet from the WIFI box on the same floor, what's crazy is my kids old NVidia Chromecast I use to use that was hooked to the LG TV had no problems and never needed a range extender like the LG needs so as to not buffer...

 

[fest3er]

Go into the Vizio menu and check for firmware updates; there's a small chance there's a bug in the software that shipped with the TV.

Swap the TV's cables at the router. If the problem move to the LG, the router may have a bad port.

Temporarily move the LG in with the Vizio and swing the net cable from the Vizio to the LG. If the problem persists, fix or replace the cable. If connected wireless and the problem persists, you may hve RF interference; choose a different channel on the router (1, 6, or 11 if 2.4 GHz WiFi, or any channel if 5 GHz WiFi).

O.K. Explain this to my simple mind. We have three TV’s, two are Smart TV’s and one has an Amazon Firestick that is attached (exercise room) .The two that are in question are the Smart TVs, both are 4K, one is an Vizio and the other is a LG.They were bought within a two months of each other, both are connected to the internet via a router with high speed internet. The LG can play THURSDAY Night Football on Amazon prime with no buffeting, the VIZIO will buffet the heck out of Thursday Night Football on Amazon Prime where you can’t watch the game. This was/is driving me nuts.

Both can play movies and any TV shows with no issues at all from either Dish, Netflix and or Amazon Prime. We used the Vizio the most since this is in the great room in our house.

 

[Jim W]

Thanks for the help but I don't think it is the Router.

Both TVs are streaming from the Router. In fact, all three TVs are streaming from the Router, but the older TV is using an AMAZON Firestick. As I stated the only item that will not stream on the VIZO is the live feed of the NFL Thursday Night Football game on AMAZON Prime. I will have to wait until next season to see if this issue has been resolved since AMAZON Prime is done for the season in broadcasting football. Any show that is not a life feed such as a movie and or TV show will work with no issues at all.

 

[06 Dodge]

Thanks for the help but I don't think it is the Router.

Both TVs are streaming from the Router. In fact, all three TVs are streaming from the Router, but the older TV is using an AMAZON Firestick. As I stated the only item that will not stream on the VIZO is the live feed of the NFL Thursday Night Football game on AMAZON Prime. I will have to wait until next season to see if this issue has been resolved since AMAZON Prime is done for the season in broadcasting football. Any show that is not a life feed such as a movie and or TV show will work with no issues at all.

Do you use a combo modem & wifi router all in one? My self have never liked them, I prefer stand alone modem & wifi router, my current one is tri-band wifi 6 router...

 

[Jim W]

No, I have a dedicated router for just the three TVs it is an eero. This is than plugged into my AT&T Gateway modem & router. Usually only one TV is on at a time, so I do not get any issues by the way the eero is streaming.