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Is anyone else noticing this, in all the press releases and on the dodge site they talk all about their new High Output cummins diesel. But doesent that term "high output" imply that there is a regualar output engine too? Or is it a maketing technique? I'm just wondering that if you want an automatic transmission are you gonna have to settle for less powerful engine.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
Good job guys. Guess I am the one guy here who doesn't care about a REAL crew cab. I think we should change the name of the site to Crew cab whiners club. It's getting a little tiring. They should make one though for those, well, those crews. The next few months will be interesting as more info on the new trucks becomes available. I read earlier that the more powerful versions of the Cummins won't be available in CA. Guess I'd be buying out of state. Also, is there EGR and is there a CAT? We should know soon.
Originally posted by Cummins4Life
Is anyone else noticing this, in all the press releases and on the dodge site they talk all about their new High Output cummins diesel. But doesent that term "high output" imply that there is a regualar output engine too? Or is it a maketing technique? I'm just wondering that if you want an automatic transmission are you gonna have to settle for less powerful engine.
Any thoughts?
From www.car-truck.com:
There will actually be three different versions of the diesel due to California regulations. Folks in California will only be able to get a 235 hp/460 lb. ft diesel. In the other 49 states you'll be able to purchase either the 250 hp/460 lb. ft standard diesel or the 305 hp / 555 lb. ft high output diesel.
The new engines have a 400-rpm wider maximum torque range than the 2002 models (200 above and 200 below the current engines). Maximum torque occurs at 400 rpm lower than the GM Duramax and 200 RPM lower than the Ford Power Stroke!
The big news is the introduction of the 48RE automatic that will be available as an option with all the diesels and the V10. Currently, buyers who want the higher output Cummins can only get it with the 6-speed manual. The reason is simple, the current 47RE just can't handle the massive amounts of torque generated by the diesel. To solve this problem Dodge has seriously beefed up the internal components to allow it better manage the torque loads. For the first time the highest output diesel will be available with an automatic. That's the good news, the bad news is that you'll have to wait until January of 2003 to get one.
Thanks for the info kchristopher. 
taken from car-truck.com
Another returning legend is the all-new, high-pressure, common-rail injection, High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel engine. The new High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel is the most powerful turbo diesel engine available in the 2500/3500 segment, producing 305 horsepower at 2,900 rpm and 555 lb. -ft. of torque at 1,400 rpm. That prodigious torque results in a class-leading towing capability of 23,000 lbs. (GCWR).
As durable as it is powerful, the Cummins Turbo Diesel has average major overhaul intervals of 350,000 miles, providing a substantial advantage over the competition. An inline six, the new 5. 9-liter Cummins has 30 to 40 percent fewer parts than typical V-8 diesels, which means added durability and better reliability.
Delivering 555 lb. -ft. of torque at 1,400 rpm and 305 horsepower at 2,900 rpm, the new 5. 9-liter High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel is the most powerful turbo diesel engine available in the 2500/3500 market. The new High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel also delivers a class-leading trailer towing rating of 23,000 lbs. (Gross Combined Weight Rating).
With nearly 75 percent of Ram 2500/3500s being sold with the Cummins Turbo Diesel engine option, it has developed one of the most devoted followings of any heavy-duty pickup. Cummins owners will accept nothing but the best, and the new high-pressure, common rail fuel-injection turbo diesel delivers.
"Dodge Cummins owners are very exacting in what they want," said Dennis Hurst, Executive Director, Cummins Engineering. "Simply put, they want the strongest and most durable product available and they will not be disappointed with this engine. We have delivered the most powerful diesel available in this class, while improving the drivability, durability and fuel efficiency. This new engine is also much quieter than its predecessor, but still retains the diesel power, torque and toughness that our customers demand. "
In fact, the new 5. 9-liter Cummins Turbo Diesel is so tough it is certified to a longer engine life compared to the diesels offered by top competitors from Chevrolet and Ford. The Cummins engine has an average major overhaul interval of 350,000 miles, providing a substantial advantage over the competition. An inline six, the new 5. 9-liter Cummins has 30 to 40 percent fewer parts than typical V-8 diesels, which means added durability and better reliability.
More than just the master of big twist, the new Cummins Turbo Diesel has been radically overhauled. Quietness, power and durability are the hallmarks of the new high-pressure, common rail fuel-injected Cummins. The new high-pressure common rail fuel injection systems designed for the 2003 Dodge Ram Heavy Duty utilizes pilot injection-the injection of a small amount of fuel that starts combustion, before the main, power-producing, fuel charge is injected. This has the effect of smoothing out combustion pressure in the cylinder, which can be the primary source of low- and mid-range speed noise in diesel engines.
A gear-driven injection pump delivers fuel to the rail and is electronically controlled to optimize fuel pressure at the individual injectors. The system provides injection pressures up to 23,200 psi (1600 Bar) and is less dependent on engine speed than traditional pump-line injection system. The result is cleaner combustion and higher low-speed torque with better vehicle response and acceleration.
In addition to the use of pilot injection to smooth combustion pressure, the fuel-injection calibration - timing, pressure and quantity- has been refined across the entire range of speeds and loads to ensure smooth, quiet combustion. The use of pilot injection during starting also provides gasoline engine-like cold starting capability (verified at -40 F).
Class-Leading Power and World Beating Durability
Not only is the High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel the most powerful diesel engine available in a full-size pickup, it is also one of the most drivable throughout all operating ranges. Maximum torque for the common rail injected Cummins Turbo Diesel occurs 400 rpm lower than the GM Duramax, and 100 rpm lower than the Ford Power Stroke. The Cummins Turbo Diesel engine also produce 20 percent more torque at 1000 rpm, and 10 percent higher clutch engagement torque than its predecessor. That relates to noticeably better vehicle launch when towing and accelerating, better drivability and fewer and smoother shifts.
The new High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel engine is as powerful as it is durable, delivering class-leading trailer towing capability (23,000 lbs. GCWR), which is the result of class-dominating torque of 555 lb. -ft. at 1,400 rpm and 305 horsepower at 2,900 rpm. The standard Cummins Turbo Diesel, which also employs high-pressure, common rail injection, boosts its horsepower rating to an impressive 250 horsepower at 2,900 rpm (up from 235 horsepower at 2,700 rpm) and produces an equally impressive 460 lb. -ft. of torque at 1,400 rpm.
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Another returning legend is the all-new, high-pressure, common-rail injection, High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel engine. The new High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel is the most powerful turbo diesel engine available in the 2500/3500 segment, producing 305 horsepower at 2,900 rpm and 555 lb. -ft. of torque at 1,400 rpm. That prodigious torque results in a class-leading towing capability of 23,000 lbs. (GCWR).
As durable as it is powerful, the Cummins Turbo Diesel has average major overhaul intervals of 350,000 miles, providing a substantial advantage over the competition. An inline six, the new 5. 9-liter Cummins has 30 to 40 percent fewer parts than typical V-8 diesels, which means added durability and better reliability.
Delivering 555 lb. -ft. of torque at 1,400 rpm and 305 horsepower at 2,900 rpm, the new 5. 9-liter High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel is the most powerful turbo diesel engine available in the 2500/3500 market. The new High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel also delivers a class-leading trailer towing rating of 23,000 lbs. (Gross Combined Weight Rating).
With nearly 75 percent of Ram 2500/3500s being sold with the Cummins Turbo Diesel engine option, it has developed one of the most devoted followings of any heavy-duty pickup. Cummins owners will accept nothing but the best, and the new high-pressure, common rail fuel-injection turbo diesel delivers.
"Dodge Cummins owners are very exacting in what they want," said Dennis Hurst, Executive Director, Cummins Engineering. "Simply put, they want the strongest and most durable product available and they will not be disappointed with this engine. We have delivered the most powerful diesel available in this class, while improving the drivability, durability and fuel efficiency. This new engine is also much quieter than its predecessor, but still retains the diesel power, torque and toughness that our customers demand. "
In fact, the new 5. 9-liter Cummins Turbo Diesel is so tough it is certified to a longer engine life compared to the diesels offered by top competitors from Chevrolet and Ford. The Cummins engine has an average major overhaul interval of 350,000 miles, providing a substantial advantage over the competition. An inline six, the new 5. 9-liter Cummins has 30 to 40 percent fewer parts than typical V-8 diesels, which means added durability and better reliability.
More than just the master of big twist, the new Cummins Turbo Diesel has been radically overhauled. Quietness, power and durability are the hallmarks of the new high-pressure, common rail fuel-injected Cummins. The new high-pressure common rail fuel injection systems designed for the 2003 Dodge Ram Heavy Duty utilizes pilot injection-the injection of a small amount of fuel that starts combustion, before the main, power-producing, fuel charge is injected. This has the effect of smoothing out combustion pressure in the cylinder, which can be the primary source of low- and mid-range speed noise in diesel engines.
A gear-driven injection pump delivers fuel to the rail and is electronically controlled to optimize fuel pressure at the individual injectors. The system provides injection pressures up to 23,200 psi (1600 Bar) and is less dependent on engine speed than traditional pump-line injection system. The result is cleaner combustion and higher low-speed torque with better vehicle response and acceleration.
In addition to the use of pilot injection to smooth combustion pressure, the fuel-injection calibration - timing, pressure and quantity- has been refined across the entire range of speeds and loads to ensure smooth, quiet combustion. The use of pilot injection during starting also provides gasoline engine-like cold starting capability (verified at -40 F).
Class-Leading Power and World Beating Durability
Not only is the High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel the most powerful diesel engine available in a full-size pickup, it is also one of the most drivable throughout all operating ranges. Maximum torque for the common rail injected Cummins Turbo Diesel occurs 400 rpm lower than the GM Duramax, and 100 rpm lower than the Ford Power Stroke. The Cummins Turbo Diesel engine also produce 20 percent more torque at 1000 rpm, and 10 percent higher clutch engagement torque than its predecessor. That relates to noticeably better vehicle launch when towing and accelerating, better drivability and fewer and smoother shifts.
The new High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel engine is as powerful as it is durable, delivering class-leading trailer towing capability (23,000 lbs. GCWR), which is the result of class-dominating torque of 555 lb. -ft. at 1,400 rpm and 305 horsepower at 2,900 rpm. The standard Cummins Turbo Diesel, which also employs high-pressure, common rail injection, boosts its horsepower rating to an impressive 250 horsepower at 2,900 rpm (up from 235 horsepower at 2,700 rpm) and produces an equally impressive 460 lb. -ft. of torque at 1,400 rpm.
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Thats a strange looking valve cover... the cummins always looks so simple compared to the V8s.
I wonder how long it will take the after market to bomb it
I wonder how long it will take the after market to bomb it
Steve St.Laurent
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I just got back from the auto show. The press intro of the new trucks was today. Keep an eye on the site tomorrow for an article from me on the new trucks, tons of pictures (with up close detailed shots of the engine cut-away), answers to questions that noone other than a mad BOMB'ER would think to ask 
(stumped the engineers on some of them so I'll have to update it next week when they get back to the office and look stuff up), etc. We'll also be opening a new forum for the new trucks tomorrow as well.
(stumped the engineers on some of them so I'll have to update it next week when they get back to the office and look stuff up), etc. We'll also be opening a new forum for the new trucks tomorrow as well.wheels and tires
Dodge is touting its largest standard wheels and tires. OOOOKaaay - I'm listening. I think most of us have some knowledge of what wheel and tire combos come on Phords and Chubs. Why not just tell us the sizes? I guess they needed to save smpace for all the adjuctives(superlatives). Any one know anything besides 17"?
Have they matched the guys with the 6. 5" rims on duallies?
Dodge is touting its largest standard wheels and tires. OOOOKaaay - I'm listening. I think most of us have some knowledge of what wheel and tire combos come on Phords and Chubs. Why not just tell us the sizes? I guess they needed to save smpace for all the adjuctives(superlatives). Any one know anything besides 17"?
Have they matched the guys with the 6. 5" rims on duallies?
I don't know, took me quite a while to get used to the current body style. I think the new one looks like somebody tried to pop a zit on the hood. Like the power and towing ratings, but it is going to be hard for my to pay the price they are surely going to ask for a crew cab.
Morph.
Like the power and towing ratings, but it is going to be hard for my to pay the price they are surely going to ask for a crew cab. Morph.
Here's the specs from D/C...
http://www.4adodge.com/autoshow/news_events/ram_hd/
WCaldwell-
I, personally doubt he'll think about it at all. Music too loud, hat obstructs vision, girlfriend has a hand in his lap...
http://www.4adodge.com/autoshow/news_events/ram_hd/
WCaldwell-
I, personally doubt he'll think about it at all. Music too loud, hat obstructs vision, girlfriend has a hand in his lap...
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Okay I just spent the last hour reading everything I could find and I saw no mention of a crew cab. All the info I could find call the current trucks (the ones at the show) a quad cab or just the Heavy Duty (why use a chevy name 
). There is still hope that they will drive a CC from behind a curtain on Friday...
). There is still hope that they will drive a CC from behind a curtain on Friday...Engine, engine, engine. Big deal. I wonder if we're ever going to see the rumored 68RE transmission? Did anybody else see that post before it disappeared off the face of the planet... or was I just hallucinating???
Wonder what they use for a lift pump???
I spent a half hour at the dealership examining the new QC, and found that it has enough room for all but the largest people. They've done some neat tricks with the rear seat area that make it really convenient! 60/40 rear seat, fold-down flat floor, etc. JMHO.
Wonder what they use for a lift pump???
I spent a half hour at the dealership examining the new QC, and found that it has enough room for all but the largest people. They've done some neat tricks with the rear seat area that make it really convenient! 60/40 rear seat, fold-down flat floor, etc. JMHO.
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I just read over on Car & Truck News the following about the wheels on the 2003.
"Designed with a holistic safety approach, Dodge Ram Heavy Duty utilizes both conventional safety features, such as air bags, and combines them with accident avoidance features such as excellent steering, handling and braking. Standard ABS, the largest brakes in its class and <b>17-inch wheels and tires</b>-the largest standard wheels and tires on a heavy-duty pickup-all contribute to Dodge Ram's excellent safety capability. "
"Designed with a holistic safety approach, Dodge Ram Heavy Duty utilizes both conventional safety features, such as air bags, and combines them with accident avoidance features such as excellent steering, handling and braking. Standard ABS, the largest brakes in its class and <b>17-inch wheels and tires</b>-the largest standard wheels and tires on a heavy-duty pickup-all contribute to Dodge Ram's excellent safety capability. "
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