Playskool Ignition Key

[RCarrillo]

Should'nt have sold that 97' !!

 

[DiamondDiver]

I will be getting 2 of those metal keys. I like to keep a key on a ring along with the house keys in case I accidentally lock my keys in the truck. Although I have not yet locked my keys in the truck I have unintentionally locked the doors by brushing the lock switch on the armrest while exiting the vehicle.

I have used the remote start system to leave the truck running and locked while I ran a quick errand with my puppy in the truck cab. On another note, the range on the Ram key fob is incredible, it seems that if I can see the truck the remote will work. I have to be within 20 feet for my VW remote to work.

My only real complaint with the Ram key fob is that the Panic button is too easily activated, on the VW key fob it is very difficult to accidentally activate the panic switch.

There have been problems with keyless start systems, people have accidentally left their vehicles running in a closed garage and gassed themselves. Although with todays technology you don't need a physical key to operate a vehicle, the physical act of inserting and removing a key is an excellent layer of safety that is familiar and transparent while still allowing for the electronic security to function. The time will come when you carry a security code on your person and can operate your vehicles without a physical key, but the system still needs to be refined before it will be universally accepted. I see a day when all your keyed security, house, cars, financial transactions will be coded to a single personal RFID encrypted code, and your proximity is all that will be necessary to operate or access a lock or make a transaction. A finger print or retinal scan could be used to verify your identity for higher levels of security.

 

[Oil Stain]

I have 'Tip Start" on mine too and it has remote start.

 

[Hummin Cummins]

I'm Definately going to look into the real key option also. I dont like the weight of everything and the angle of how it hangs on the dashboard when the key is in the ignition. And with all plastic innerworkings, just asking for problems. I didnt have my '10 long enough to experience this problem and never gave much thought to the system, other than I disliked the bulkyness of the fobik.

 

[bedroc]

DiamondDiver... Since I have never used a panic button and not sure why I would. Here is my solution to the accidental pressing of the panic button. Open the key fob like you are changing out the battery then remove the rubber cover with the buttons on it from the pcb board. Place a small piece of paper over the contact for the panic button. Reassemble the key fob and poof no more panic button. If you change your mind and want the panic button back just remove the paper.

 

[JLeake]

I hate my 2011 key monstrosity... . I normally carry keys in my pocket, but that miserable thing then gets set off frequently, including the way to easy to set off panic button. So I now carry it on my badge holder at work around my neck, looks stupid, is huge, is in the way... ... A friend of ours ruined his van key like mine in his pocket, cost $300 for a replacement... Other than at work, I have to find a pocket to put it in... . and not my pants pocket with change, pocket knives and pill bottle.

There are frequent frustrations on my part of the "we do everything" apparent mentality foisted on us by the regulators and the marketeers who think all this one stop, one button stuff is what we want. I guess my age is catching up with me.

 

[DiamondDiver]

I picked up 2 coded keys and had them programmed. The metal part of the key works in the drivers door, tailgate, and RamBox, there is a void space in the ignition switch to accommodate this type of key. I'll put this key on my ring with the other keys I carry and use it to operate the truck while I keep the remote fob in my pocket. This option was a whole lot cheaper than buying 2 extra remote fobs. It gives me some piece of mind from accidentally locking my keys in the truck, also I will be less likely to set off the panic button or accidentally unlocking the truck by constantly fishing for the remote in my pocket.

 

[ramduk]

Did you get the keys from Mopar? If so what part number? How much did they charge for programming. I looked into extra fobs and they are expensive.

 

[DiamondDiver]

The keys were around $30 each and it was $60 to code them both at the same time. I got the blanks from the Ram dealer in Davie, Fl. They cut the keys from my VIN when I picked them up and after I checked to make sure they worked in the locks I had them coded for the ignition switch. If the security system is activated the alarm will go off until you put the key in the ignition and turn it to the accessory position. If the alarm could be set for a 15 second delay they would work perfectly.

The following link looks like the key, I will edit this post when I can verify my invoice

http://www.mopar.com/part/05018689AA?s=335807&i=784804&b=ram


Modules, Receiver, Keys, and Key FOBs - KEY, Blank
Part # 05018689AA
Number on Image: 1
Categories: Electrical

 

[ramduk]

Thanks for the info. I have a 3500 Laramie with the auto start. I wonder if that makes any difference. The listed part number does not list the 3500. I will have to do further research.

Thanks again.

 

[DiamondDiver]

The actual part number for my key was:

P/N: 68033740AA
Description: KEY-BLANK KEYB5

They were $28. 00 EA, and cost $59 to code, it is a Dodge branded key

Try this link for the RAM 3500

http://www.mopar.com/part/68029829AB?s=335708&i=763938&b=ram


Receiver Modules, Keys, and Key FOBS - KEY, Blank
Part # 68029829AB
Number on Image: 2
Categories: Electrical
MSRP $28. 85 Price may vary by dealer

 

[ramduk]

Thanks again..... I found the second number while hunting around. Do you have the remote start on your truck?

 

[DiamondDiver]

Yes, I have the remote start, using the remote fob didn't really annoy me like some other members of the forum, I just wanted some extra keys. I'm more concerned with locking my keys in the truck accidentally.

 

[ramduk]

I'm in the same boat..... we travel and I want a couple of xtra keys for the ignition in case I do something dumb. This rig doesn't have onstar to unlock it... ... ..... but it has much much more.

 

[RonD]

You can open your door lock with a key that came with the fob key, those are chiped keys for the ignition, just have a key made non chip, will open the door if you lock the key inside, and hide it someplace just in case

Yes, I have the remote start, using the remote fob didn't really annoy me like some other members of the forum, I just wanted some extra keys. I'm more concerned with locking my keys in the truck accidentally.

 

[Albert]

I don't know why you all want to get rid from all this fob things. I thinks its best for the security of your vehicle and also it facilitate you. And i feel ease when i have that in my pocket because don't need to open the door with key and many other benefits.

 

[JLeake]

I keep car keys in my front pocket (every other car/truck I have had). Not so with this rig. The blasted key fob if kept in my pocket starts the engine, locks or unlocks the doors and in one case set off the car alarm, just by me bending over or reaching for something else. As a result, I carry it on my badge neck rig at work. When the FOB starts the engine when I am 100+ feet from me and I have to go and shut it off or whatever is required manually. Last Saturday I was up and my good friends, I heard it running, no one near it, and the key in my pocket..... quickly put in my tool bag after I walked down to it, and shut it off with the key.

I contend key FOB's are great for purse users. For key in pocket guys they are a royal PITA. And worse, if they get messed up they are pricey to replace. If they had options to lock things out that would work. The german car maker who sells cars under a 3 character logo has keys that you just carry in your pocket, and they unlock the car when you are close. Mine drives me nuts, sometimes I push it once, unlocked, other times I push it 10 times and still unlocked, and I have had to fish out the physical key to unlock it. Seems that sometimes it wants a very short signal other times a little longer and others yet longer still. If you do not guess it correctly, then it will drive you nuts.

end of rant.

 

[ramduk]

Your dealer can sell you and program a regular key that works in your truck. Cost me around $30 for the key and $40 for programming but it does work and makes for a cheaper spare or pocket key than the fob.