Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Power Edge EZ Died--I think?

[Max Wedge]

I have noticed over the last week that the performance of truck seemed off, and it didn't smoke anymore when accelerating, so I changed fuel filter and no change.



I have a 5 psi switch w/light hooked up to injector pump banjo bolt. Boost is still 25-27 psi but no "kick in the pants". So tonight I removed EZ and boost elbow ands sure enough no difference in drivability.



Has anyone expereinced a similar problem? I would like to know before I call Aaron in the morning. Box is just over 1 year old.



Thanks in advance.



Max Wedge

 

[Sky]

sounds like you might have a faulty EZ, give them a call.

 

[RustyJC]

I've noticed the same thing lately. No smoke on acceleration when towing the 5ver - used to give a healthy black puff at launch and at every shift! The "kick in the butt" feeling just isn't there. Maximum boost (30 PSIG) and EGT (1100 degF preturbo) look OK, as does post-filter fuel pressure (12 PSIG @ WOT). It almost feels like the timing function still works (I have no 2000 RPM stock ETH power spike), but the additional fueling function doesn't...



Rusty

 

[Whitmore]

first thing

check all the connections, clean them with lectromotive and than get some of that white grease for the connections and re-apply and try again before you give up... ... ... ... ... . Kevin

 

[zimman20]

I've noticed the same thing with my PE EZ. Thought it was my imagination. However, reading some past threads on this item it appears there was a 'bad batch' at one point where they had this problem, possibly another 'bad batch'? I agree with the thought that it's the fueling option because I also am not seeing the black smoke or feeling the kick in the pants. Will try the above, check connections and dielectric grease.



zman

 

[Sky]

A good test is to take it off for a few days then put it back on to see if the power is back. Sometimes you get use to the power and think you have lost it. ,

 

[zimman20]

That's why I haven't bothered to do anything with/about it to this point, I thought maybe I'd gotten used to it. However, you'd think I'd still be seeing the black smoke when I stomped on it, don't you? EZ is still set on Level 3, default from the factory so I'd think I'd see smoke. Maybe I'll try your idea for giggles, though.



zman

 

[WyoJim]

I didn't think I could rely on the seat of the pants BS so I ran mine against a stop watch, 0 to 60.

Stock---13 sec

EZ------12 sec

Elbo----11 sec

BHAF----10 sec---NAPA 2790 lets it spool up quick and barks the tires on the shift 1st to second.

Hold the brake and start with a little boost and it is in the 9's.

 

[Max Wedge]

I know there is something wrong here, as I removed box and went for drive last night, and there was "0" diference in overall drive feel. I can still remeber plugging box in first time and there was an overall improvement mark. For if there was NO "seat of the pants" difference I would have sent box back, and I don't think anyone would be buying them.



Lack of smoke at throttle up is still a problem. It is either caused by low fuel preasure or no additional fueling from box. Also before trans would not kick down from 4th to 3rd as quick as the additional power was there.



So don't try and tell me that there is very little to no difference in "Seat of the Pants" feel or else we all just spent $$$$ for nothing.



Max

 

[zimman20]

WHOA!

Be cool, Max Wedge. I believe all WyoJim is trying to say is that he wanted to 'quantify' the improvements instead of relying on 'feel' to verify what he got out of his mods. That way there would be no 'assumptions' as to whether or not he had 'gotten used to' the mods or not, like we're doing. Sounds like a good idea to me!



However, I am with you that I definitely DID feel a tremendous kick in the a$$ after installing the EZ, and I'm not feeling it anymore. Also I'm not seeing the aforementioned smoke when I stomp on it, a by-product of the EZ doing its thing from the fueling end.



I'll try a few days without it and see what it feels like compared to what it feels like with the box installed, just to be sure. My box is only about 4-5 months old.



zman

 

[RustyJC]

Originally posted by Max Wedge

Lack of smoke at throttle up is still a problem. It is either caused by low fuel preasure or no additional fueling from box.

Max,



I agree. With 12 PSIG post-filter fuel pressure @ WOT that I'm seeing, if it ain't smokin' like it used to, it has to be because the EZ ain't fuelin' like it used to! I knew something was wrong last Saturday when this automatic PowerStroke pulled up next to me at a traffic light... .



Rusty

 

[Max Wedge]

zimman20;



Didn't necessarily mean to come across harsh, but I leaving this weekend with the truck and I am not looking forward to towing without the EZ and I am running out of time. I just wanted to state that there is a difference.



I drag race and I know that the timers don't lie, but I believe WE all know when the performance of our trucks fall off. That is why I removed the box & drove it before I posted last night. All connections were good & sealed--still had grease in all the right areas. I am not imaging this. My Smoke Is Gone



No fights here--as I didn't capitalize anything--HEE HEE HEE.



Max

 

[zimman20]

I'm with you, brother, I know how my truck runs and I don't believe I'm imagining it either. BUT I'll take the box off for a few days just to confirm my suspicions.



I can tell you that I don't need a $500. 00+ boat anchor on my truck, I'll be following up with PE post-haste. At least I think I need to deal w/ PE directly, don't I/we? I bought mine from Piers, wonder who we need to deal with to have them checked/replaced? Anybody know? Thx... ...





zman

 

[Max Wedge]

Call Aaron directly at Power Edge: 801. 476. 3343 is what I was told by the business I purchased mine from. Just send it in for testing and possible repair/replacement.

Trouble is, I can't get anyone to answer the phone out there in Utah--What's Up! Not even the operator.



Max

 

[RustyJC]

Originally posted by zimman20

I bought mine from Piers, wonder who we need to deal with to have them checked/replaced? Anybody know?

I sent the following e-mail to Brett at Edge Products ( -- email address removed -- ) this morning:

Brett,



I have a 2002 Dodge Ram 3500 with the Cummins HO/6 speed (ETH/DEE). At about 2000 miles, I installed an Edge EZ originally built for the 2001 Cummins - I believe your records should show that you sent me one of the first wiring adapter kits for the 2002.



Up until the last month or so, the EZ worked fine. With the jumper still on setting #3, when towing our 13,500 lb 5th wheel I would get a healthy puff of black smoke at launch and at every shift. Of course, there was a noticeable "kick in the rear" as well! Within the last month, I've noticed that the smoke when towing the 5ver is gone as is the "kick in the rear". It almost feels like the timing function is still working (I don't have the stock 2000 RPM power spike I had before installing the EZ) but the fueling function isn't. The truck has just over 8000 miles on it at this writing.



Maximum boost (30 PSIG), preturbo EGT (1100 degF) and post-filter fuel pressure (12 PSIG) still look OK. They haven't changed noticeably since installing the EZ.



Other than pulling and cleaning all the connections, do you have any suggestions?

I haven't received a reply yet - I'll post when I hear something.



Rusty

 

[jtisdale]

They are great people with excellent customer service. Its too bad you guys had trouble with the product. I am sure they will make it right, and put a smile back on your faces.

 

[M Evan]

At least boost control in EZ must work, otherwise you will see check engine light from overboost. Is that right ?

M

 

[jtisdale]

I dont know if the check engine light comes on or not, but I do know it will throw a code that only the dealer will be able to clear. :{

 

[Ram4Sam]

Still have 30 lbs....

Rusty, just a thought here. I would think that if the box wasn't adding more fuel than stock, you wouldn't be able to still blow 30 lbs of boost since more fuel=more boost. Unplug the data link plug leaving the map sensor plug hooked up and see if you can still blow 30 lbs of boost. Inquiring minds want to know!!



Sam

 

[Bob Wagner]

R4S is right on the money. If the box was out to lunch, no way would you be able to pull 30psi of boost.



Heck I run the old version VA and BD2's, I pull just under 35psi with too much smoke.



If the box is DOA your boost would be back to stock levels