Power Edge Fueling Module

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no larry i get your point , i have been asking this question since the VA first surfaced , and asked it directly to blue chip , as HVAC stated the electronics only allows a certian amount of fueling , this is why the HOT boxes connect after the electronics , at least this is my belief .

maybe your theory needs to be tested . whenever i posed a question to TST i NEVER recieved a reply. i will look at my manual to see if it is possible to figure out which wire the PE can be piggybacked on .

my personal feeling is that if it could be done , it would have been done already, everybody seems to want a way to keep DC in the dark about what we are doing ... ( wait if this was true there wouldn't be a thread like this out in the open #ad
) brett and company getting into the HP game this late would have used VA style connectors if possible , so i again think its not possible to do what they do before the pump electronics ... but i guess its worth a shot , will you help me buy a new pump if i fry mine in HOT # 3 ??? #ad
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Larry,
The VA connects to the injector computer interface. (digital networking stuff 'CANBUS')
The PE connects directly to the injector pump wiring like the other fueling boxes. (analog'ish')

Hope this helps,
David
(PA/OHIO border, westbound to MT)

 

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Is this the longest thread in the Board history?

 

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Got It!!!!!

I was under the impression that the PE spliced into the wires just before they entered the factory connector on the back of the pump . . Like the VA does...

I was under the impression that the only reason Blue Chip, TST, PE. . used piercing connectors was the cost or availability of the connectors. .

My understanding was that only an OFFSHORE company (IE VA) could legally use the connectors...

You've set me straight... . But I'm Still working on some other "Stealth" goodies... .

I'm Still not Sold on the "Piercing of the insulation" concept...

There HAS TO BE A MORE ELEGANT SOLUTION. . !!!

Induction?... . Yeah. . Yeah... That's the ticket... #ad
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[This message has been edited by Larry Quinn (edited 07-09-2000). ]

 

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Is there anyone currently using the VA CPC box along with the PE box? If so, how is that working out? Any problems or concerns?

I have the VA box now, otherwise all else is stock, w/auto.

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99' Quad Cab, 4x4, Auto, 3. 54, All options except fog lights and leather, Glasstop topper, Chrome Nerf Bars, VA CPC, DiPricol EGT & Boost Gauges Pillar Mount.

 

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larry , i work in the electronics field and had also though t about induction , i know you can wrap a ferrite coil of some sort to pickup pulses from a wire , why not do the same to induce pulses into the wire ???just pierce it ... you know you want to... #ad
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steve i am running both , you get some good smoke with your foot in it in levels above 1 , but PE will sell you a box if you want to keep the VA , which is a good idea till they release their timing module , then the VA is for the scardy cats ... #ad

 

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Hi Fellas, Anyone other than me notice that their stock clutch is slipping while in Hot #3? I noticed the slipping this morning on the way to work when I put it in Hot 3. I can feel it when I punch the throttle at 45mph.
I guess the life of my stock clutch will be pretty short. Oh well,It'll just give me an excuse to install a dual disc clutch. Can anyone refer me to one? What's the price?

I sent Brett an E-Mail on having the PE come in just off Idle. He said that it could be done,but it would increase smoke. You guys know that I love smoke! I asked him to make it happen with the newest Hot Edge that he's sending me.

I guess that I'll wait to get the dyno tests done until I get the newest Hot Edge. Couldn't do it last saturday since the "better half" trashed her brake rotors on the Grand Cherokee. She said that her brakes were grinding. I asked her how long has it been grinding? She said,"About 2 weeks after they quit squealing". WOMEN!!
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'99 2500HD Quad Cab 4x4,Intense Blue Pearlcoat,fully loaded w/Agate leather interior,5-speed,4. 10 limited slip,Skyjacker Leveling kit,Heckethorn Nitro 9000 shocks w/dual end to end steering stabilizers,35x12. 50x16. 5 BFG/AT KO's on 9. 75x16. 5 Eagle 589 Aluminum Wheels,9004 Cool Blue's,Silencer Ring removed,Fog Lights relay pulled,No muffler,No resonator,4" straight pipe,Northwest Customs Stainless Steel Rocker Panels,Steel Horse Stainless Steel Nerf Bars,POWEREDGE W/SUPER-DYNA-WHOPPIN' HOT#3 PROGRAM

 

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Mopar,
I have the VA on now and PE on order. I was going to keep the VA and possibly send the PE back to get configured to operate with the VA depending on how the PE works. Do you have any ideas was the hp figures on the PE with VA would be?

Steve

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Y2K 3500 SLT+,4x2,Black/Camel,leather,LSD,Auto,3. 55,towing,rhino-liner,eagle series 58 alum wheels,JRE 4" exhaust,VA CPC

 

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wowzy , my stock convertor lockup slips in HOT #3 , it's to be expected with that HP level . the dual disc is expensive , i have seem to remember 1200 being thrown around . #ad


steve G . i have no clue yet to as the HP level yet , i didn't get to the track yesterday , hopefully wednesday pans out , but i'll guess the 2 together in a HOT # 3 at near 150 hp . i would not send it back to be made to run with the VA , PE is working on a timing module that will make the VA not needed , for much less than the cost of a VA. there are plenty of guys lurking on this thread looking for a decent deal on a VA .

 

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I beleive this stumble is not PE related. I do think it has something do to with being boomed. I had the stumble several times this week while carting the 44ft goody wagon across Texas. Unless the PE can do this while sitting in the back seat and in a box, I do not think there is any connection. I do run the stage 2 injectors. I am going to remove the injectors and go stock and see what happens.

By the way, the stumble only happens when I am pulling the Wander Lodge.

One more question, I saw 48 lbs of boost while running with the PE and injectors, at what point do I blow this friggin thing up?

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Is anybody other then HVAC using the PE along with a TST flashed ECM?. I've been running the TST ecm for the past 60K miles or so. I've got a PE (not for VA version) comming and am looking for some observations from other with the same setup to compare notes with.

 

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Junebug, you can't blow the Cummins up #ad
I would say that you are at the limit of the turbo to handle the pressure you are running. Don't go up into the 50's or you may find yourself with a non-turbo charged engine if you know what I mean #ad

 

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well mike you will find out on tuesday how the 2 function together #ad
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junebug , 48 psi #ad
which boost elbow are you running , with 275's i have seen 42 with a DD elbow , the one supplied with the edge is adjustable , i'm going to call brett tomorrow to find out what we SHOLUD be running and if i should install his adjustable unit and adjust it ...

edit , the stumble i feel was edge related , i had it happen a number of times with the box powered on and off , i was very confused , i have been running the newest design for a couple of days now with no stumble. what year is your ram ? if its an early '00 did you have the reflash for stumble done?

[This message has been edited by Mopar-muscle (edited 07-10-2000). ]

 

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Here's the scoop (I think):

My 99 did the stumble thing stock (so do many others, especially 99's and 00's). Someone mentioned to me that their dealer told them that this was caused by electrical interference from cell phones, radios, high line wires, etc. I just knew that had to be some DC BS, but . . . I spoke with Brett about the stumble problems. He said that the ECM picks up electrical noise, and that's what causes the problem. Something in the PE's was giving a small amount of noise, and they've isolated the problem and changed the part that was giving the "noise".

So, Brett and Taylor are having design their product to handle DC's screw-ups (who would guess?). That's why some trucks do it and others don't. It's NOT the PE itself.

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1999 2500 QC 4X4 LB Auto 4. 10LS, Driftwood, CD player with Steering Wheel Controls, Power Driver's Seat, 275HP Injectors, PowerEdge, K&N Air Filter, Brushguard, Spray-in Liner, 285/75R16 BFG AT KO's, Nerf Bars, Black Diamond Plate Deep Well Tool Box, Mopar flat antispray guards (front and back)
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I recieved my truck in May '99 and never had the engine stumble in the 13 months before I installed the Hot Edge.

Brett told me that their engineers found that some PE boxes were putting out more noise than others. That's why the second Hot Edge that I installed was worse. It made the engine stumble 5 times in only 2 days. I took it out and put the first one back in and haven't had one stumble since the one stumble 3 weeks ago. Both Hot Edges have the same program.
My hat goes off to Brett and Taylor for great customer service. Any other company would've just blamed it on the truck and left it at that.
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'99 2500HD Quad Cab 4x4,Intense Blue Pearlcoat,fully loaded w/Agate leather interior,5-speed,4. 10 limited slip,Skyjacker Leveling kit,Heckethorn Nitro 9000 shocks w/dual end to end steering stabilizers,35x12. 50x16. 5 BFG/AT KO's on 9. 75x16. 5 Eagle 589 Aluminum Wheels,9004 Cool Blue's,Silencer Ring removed,Fog Lights relay pulled,No muffler,No resonator,4" straight pipe,Northwest Customs Stainless Steel Rocker Panels,Steel Horse Stainless Steel Nerf Bars,POWEREDGE W/SUPER-DYNA-WHOPPIN' HOT#3 PROGRAM

 

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i recieved my '00 in january , 14k miles and no stumble till i put on the edge , i recieved new one with mod on harness and stumble is gone ...

 

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Tuesday huh...
I think it's time to leave work and camp out on my front porch for the UPS man...

 

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I've had no further problems with the engine stumbling since Taylor sent me a new box. No problems of any kind... . Thanks, Taylor, Brett, HVAC, for the great service !
Exhaust runs hot, around 8-900 degrees under cruising speed, with the Edge turned OFF ... and about the same with it on, till I drop the hammer. The new dual exhaust I'm getting should take care of that.
I beat a PSD from a standing start stoplight in Nashville this past Sunday, while pulling my new bass boat. (Yes, I had it in stage 3) Wish I had a picture of the clown's face when my boat pulled up even with his window, he was at the light first and had no idea I had a can tied to my tail until I passed him... #ad


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Alright folks,
Read all the posts and did not see a question asked or answered that I have been pondering unless I missed it. I have 275's and a 4" installed, and I want to know if the PE is the same as the VA where you have to or should upgrade the auto trans. (such as low stall torque converter) before or at the same time as doing the box? If so, what brands and types of modifications are to be done? I am leaning towards the PE rather than the VA mostly from what I have read and price.

99 2500 slt emerald green auto 3. 54,with all factory goodies no leather,35x12. 5 BFG AT's Rancho 2"leveling kit, 275 injectors, 4" exhaust, Ramsey Brushguard(12,000lb winch to follow),PIAA 80 series offroad and ice blue fog lights,Bushwacker fenderflares Smitty nerf bars, Hadley airhorns, airbags in back, campershell

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paulk,
I have the VA and 4" exhaust and stock injectors. I was told that anything beyond that, I should upgrade the transmisson. I've ordered the PE and also was told that I will be safe if I don't hotrod and drive sane. I plan on the transmission upgrade and will go probably with the BD valvebody and TC. I plan on talking to Bill K. about this, as I understand he is a good source of info and is working on something for us. There's alot of info on this site about transmission mods.
Good Luck,
Steve


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Y2K 3500 SLT+,4x2,Black/Camel,leather,LSD,Auto,3. 55,towing,rhino-liner,eagle series 58 alum wheels,JRE 4" exhaust,VA CPC

98 20. 1'Viper Coral/200 Merc EFI