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Ok fella's, I'm coming to the well again... .



Lost my power steering about a week ago, had a leak in the gearbox, much slop, been feeding it fluid, it finally died. Decided to replace the pump, gearbox and lines at the same time. Found a crack around the front mount bolt on the reinforcing plate to the gearbox, so got a new one from the dealer along with the mount gasket for the vacuum pump. Found a replacement seal for the vacuum pump to ps pump shaft at a local bearing house. NAPA for the other parts. I will post all part #'s and prices when I gather up my receipts. Installed everything, bled the ps pump according to the factory service manual, wheels off the ground. While bleeding, I thought the wheel feel was a little stiff, but been driving so long on the old system, didn't know better. Turned from stop to stop with wheels up. When the fluid level stabilized with wheels up, I lowered the vehicle and proceeded to try and turn stop to stop with weight on. No way. No power assist. Looked at the paperwork that came with the pump, It said to check the pressure fitting to confirm that it matched what came out:eek: Doh! So I pulled it out, along with the pressure relief valve and spring, and compared it to the ones from the dead pump. Pressure fitting was identical, the only difference I could find was the relief valve from the dead pump was about a 16th shorter than the replacement. So I put the fitting and relief valve and spring from the dead pump into the new one and started the bleeding process all over again. Wheels up, still stiff:mad: So now I'm starting to get PO'd. Fluid level stabilized, so I decided to turn from stop to stop several times, thinking that perhaps I have an air lock somewhere in the lines or gearbox. After going from stop to stop about 6 times (no, I didn't hang on the stops), the wheel effort gets less, but I'm hearing a hissing noise:confused: . Shut down, hissing coming from the pump, open, lots of foamy ps fluid comes boiling out. Manual states that this could occur, so I'm letting the air settle out until tonight and I will try again to see if maybe I forced an air lock out or something. FWIW, I double checked the installation of the pressure and return lines on the gearbox, they are correct (port furthest away from the tire is pressure, closest to is the return). Also, no sign of leagage from any of the connections, but can't tell if it's sucking air (trucks kinda loud).



Any and all comments are appreciated. Sorry for the length.



Pat
 
No PS with new pump

Had the same problem when put the new pump on. No ps, lots of foam etc. I left it run awhile. Turned it back/forth time to time. It came out of it after awhile.



Sorry I cant help more.



Scott
 
Interesting, perhaps it is trapped air? I spoke with a guy I work with who said his buddy's son went through 3 pumps from NAPA before getting one that worked. The first one had a cracked pump body, the second one would move fluid but not produce any pressure, the third one worked. So if tonights efforts produce a goose egg, hello NAPA, give me another pump, and while you're at it, new gaskets and seals too.



Pat
 
Mine from NAPA as well

Go figure.



I would like to know the part no. of the seal in the flange that the ps pump mounts to. It holds back engine oil from leaking out of the vac pump drive.



I did not replace it due to time restraints. If it should ever leak I'll want to have one in hand prior to disassembly.



Ya know whadda mean?



Scott
 
Scott:



ps pump shaft seal is a national part number, don't have my notes, they are at home. Tomorrow I will post all part numbers. I can tell you that it is a metric seal, and if you can read the original numbers they transpose to the National part number, something like 27387 = national part number 27X38X7, as in 27mm by 38mm by 7mm. Don't use the above as gospel yet, look for my post tomorrow for the actual part numbers. Can tell you that you can't get it from the dealer, but from local bearing house it cost all of $2. 35:)



Pat
 
Part Numbers



As promised:



Shaft seal for ps pump to vac. pump (your favorite local bearing House:

Stock Part Number: GACO DPSM. 28387V ANGUS 9

National Part Number: 28X38X7

Price: $2. 35



Replacement Steering Gearbox bracket (Dealer):

52037876

$16. 50



Vacuum pump to block gasket (Dealer):

5010481-AB

$4. 85



Reman PS pump (NAPA):

NSP 20-8001

$69. 74

Core Charge: $27. 78



Reman Gear Box (NAPA):

NSP 27-7529

$198. 08

Core Charge: $166. 67



Pressure Hose (NAPA):

NPS 7-2390

$17. 66



Return Hose (NAPA):

NPS 7-2402

$12. 55



Warn Premium Hubs (www.4x4cyberstore.com)

38826

$177. 95



Hey Greenleaf! Third try is the charm! I ran again last night, foamed up, but this time it pulled down in the resevoir so I was able to add more fluid. It stabilized, quit foaming, and I had power assistOo.



Now I can get busy and install the gauges(ISSAPRO: EGT, Boost, transmission Temp), 16cm housing, PDR HX35 and POD'sOo. Oo. Put the PDR fuel pin in last night. Too much snow yet for any meaningful road tests.



Pat
 
:) I knew you had it in ya! Wish I could drive over and help out with the "Fun Stuff". You'll really enjoy the mods you just described. Sounds like a fun weekend.



BTW, my new pump acted EXACTLY as you described. Good on ya!!!Oo. And Merry Christmas! :D



Scott aka Greenleaf
 
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