Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) PROPER ORDER FOR UPGRADING YOUR ISB

[HEMI®Dart]

Willyslover, Do you know a guy named Jerry Tarvin? He is from California too. I see him in car chat rooms sometimes. He has a yellow '42 Willy`s with a Hilborne injected 16 plug HEMI! Awesome ride!. He says he used to race factory Max Wedge and Hemi cars in the mid 60`s. His '62 Dodge Dart "HEMI" wagon was featured in Mopar Muscle, Jan 99. #ad


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Signature went with the "crash". . out in cyber space somewhere...



[This message has been edited by HEMI®Dart (edited 01-21-2000). ]

 

[willyslover]

HEMI. . know the ride not the man. . I havn't done drags for many years, still enjoy big HP just got tired of "HE WITH THE MOST SPONSORS WINS" issues. . thought sprinters would be more fun, was/is Qubic hole in which to pour big $$$ but loads of fun. . [BTW I know of an original '70 hemi cuda with less than 20K miles. spends It's whole life in a garage TALK ABOUT A WASTE]. . my next/last street rod will be a 33Willys 800+ HP. . will start after my CJ7 project is completed... Gary

[This message has been edited by willyslover (edited 01-21-2000). ]

 

[Rob Spading]

Just so you post counters know -- these pages are rewritten on the fly, each time you load it, so the posting counters update each of your posts with the latest and greatest numbers -- now back to the subject of upgrading your 24V.

Hi Ted J. !

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Rob Spading -- TDR Webmaster
1996 3500 CCab, 4X4, Black, Rickson 19. 5", Mag-Hytec Rear/Trans covers, Primeloc, TST 230/605, Westach Gauges, JRE 4" Exhaust, BD Valve Body & TC, American Toolbox/Tank -- -- Coming soon ... BD Brake, Torqloc, Pressure Lock, Espar Heater.

 

[scotty1]

This cell will not hold me.

 

[HVAC]

There you have it, intervention on the part of the webmeister! Web police action to put a halt to the crimes and dirty deeds of one Scott at LARGE!!! Put down that keyboard Mr. BIG and come out with you hands up, your through!! No more double dipping for you! You'll be cooling your turbos in a damp cell in Iowa till the corn gets tall!! #ad

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[This message has been edited by HVAC (edited 01-23-2000). ]

 

[Ted Jannetty]

Movin on up!


Ted Jannetty

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Ted Jannetty, Owner President Jannetty Racing Enterprises Inc.
97 3500 4x4 club cab 5spd. RED, JRE stage 3 power kit, JRE 4" exhaust
JRE 1/2 inch fuel system, Cummins 300 hp injectors, Prime loc,
Cummins chrome kit, US Gear 20% over drive, 3. 54 posi, Autometer
gauges, boost, and Pyrometer, BD exhaust brake.
97 Ski-Doo 670 turbocharged
99 Honda Forman 450 ES

 

[Mopar-muscle]

but ted i have skipped to 4 and 6 without getting the rest , i will have to drop back 20 and punt ... i will have to dig deeper now and the little lady is going to kill me , we are homeless at the moment , but i will be warm in my heated leather seats ... but seriously , can i put an on/off switch on the VA???
EDIT ... ted how about a boost module of some sort , won't all this new found power need more boost , plus we don't want the check engine light ratting us out to DC... hehehe
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John W. in N. H.
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Y2K 2500,QC,4x4,SLT+,CUMMINS,Auto,TT,CS,3. 54 LSD,Driftwood,Camel LEATHER + LOADED,aspiring to BOMB !

1969 Dodge Superbee, Black on Black, 383, 4spd, BOMBed !!

[This message has been edited by Mopar-muscle (edited 01-26-2000). ]

 

[Rob Spading]

To the top -- for Scrmbld4X4.



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Rob Spading -- TDR Webmaster
1996 3500 CCab, 4X4, Black, Rickson 19. 5", Mag-Hytec Rear/Trans covers, Primeloc, TST 230/605, Westach Gauges, JRE 4" Exhaust, BD Valve Body & TC, American Toolbox/Tank -- -- Coming soon ... BD Brake, Torqloc, Pressure Lock, Espar Heater.

 

[Ted Jannetty]

I'm working on getting boost modules for a very reasonable price and will offer them when ready.
20 lbs. boost on a 24 valve is equal to 30 lbs on a 12 valve.
Boost is a product of restriction in the head and the 24 valve flows more air at the same RPM.
So to answer you question, Do You need more boost to make more power?
This is a two part answer; No not at the power levels most of you will be at with injectors and Van AAken CPC.
Yes if you are going beyond that.

Ted Jannetty

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Ted Jannetty, Owner President Jannetty Racing Enterprises Inc.
97 3500 4x4 club cab 5spd. RED, JRE stage 3 power kit, JRE 4" exhaust
JRE 1/2 inch fuel system, Cummins 300 hp injectors, Prime loc,
Cummins chrome kit, US Gear 20% over drive, 3. 54 posi, Autometer
gauges, boost, and Pyrometer, BD exhaust brake.
97 Ski-Doo 670 turbocharged
99 Honda Forman 450 ES

[This message has been edited by Ted Jannetty (edited 02-02-2000). ]

 

[Sean Flanagan]

Gee Ted,

I guess I did it all wrong. I bombed mine in the order of... 1, 4, 2, 6 and am now contemplating a new clutch (step 5) and an exhaust brake (step 9!). Someday i'll do step 3 (4" exhaust). I will wait until the stock one goes to hell. The baffles in the stock muffler are beginning to rattle. That day may be sooner than later. #ad



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98. 5 2500 QC LB 4x4 5spd, white. BFG 285x75x16
Cummins 24v w/ TST PowerMAX w/EGT and Boost gauges on A-Pillar.
Diesel Dynamics Stage III injectors. K&N In the factory air box.
SnugTop, JJ Stainless Running boards, Tow Hooks, Bushwacker Street Flares, and a Cup Smoothie

 

[Mopar-muscle]

sean , i would just yank the stock muffler and resonator and either straight pipe it or install a straight thru muffler , that would be BETTER than the stock system and not be a huge waste of money on something headed to the dumpster ... i know have 3,4 and axed 6 till next month , i do need to get gauges though but the new home purchase this week is cramping my spendaholic ways ... the BOSS is none to happy about me and the new money pit ... lol

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John W. in N. H.
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Y2K 2500,QC,4x4,SLT+,CUMMINS,Auto,TT,CS,3. 54 LSD,Driftwood,Camel LEATHER + LOADED,Line-X,silencer ring in the glovebox,aspiring to BOMB !

1969 Dodge Superbee, Black on Black, 383, 4spd, BOMBed !!

 

[David_VT]

Hey Ted,
I like your ideas. However, because of that nagging need for power over doing things right, I'll put your CPC in first.
Once I figure out how to make the engine light go on, I'll make my own boost module or find one with a sane price. (hopefully yours)
At that point I'll probably be flying blind on the boost so hopefully the tweeter capable gauge brackets will become available and I'll do the gauge thing (like HVAC>>50+boost).
This will probably put us into mid summer and then I can get an exhaust kit so I can install it myself out in the summer grass (i. e. hay, not the other stuff).
Finally, after far too many trips to California I will settle down for HVAC's latest purple rain injectors after I get and post a nice video of a thunderstorm following him around California.
Now, if someone finds some nice swingwing cab steps, that might be nice for effect...

Then, as winter closes in I'll get the ESPAR bolted on (if we get a good price), and finally a set of tires so this beast can keep up with the snowmobile... . #ad


Bravo to those original BOMBERS, fathers to the newest global wing of the TDR hp junkies... . (cheaper than therapy)

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99QC4x4SB5SPD Van Aaken coming,
we are going to the BOMBING range soon
78 Moto-Ski 400 refurb keeps the RAM from playing in the snow
Green Monster's cyber garage

 

[Ted Jannetty]

There have been rumors of the Van AAken allowing higher boost levels, but our own testing this week with a 98 24 valve with Gauges, K&N, JRE 4" exhaust, Bosch 275 hp injectors, and the Van AAken on board, says NO.

By the way! this truck Flies!!!!

The derating is still in tact.
This in not a problem as most people think.
The only time derating happens is at full throttle and with all this added power you won't need full throttle.
When the boost modules are ready I will test them on this truck and report the results.

Ted Jannetty

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Ted Jannetty, Owner President Jannetty Racing Enterprises Inc.
97 3500 4x4 club cab 5spd. RED, JRE stage 3 power kit, JRE 4" exhaust
JRE 1/2 inch fuel system, Cummins 300 hp injectors, Prime loc,
Cummins chrome kit, US Gear 20% over drive, 3. 54 posi, Autometer
gauges, boost, and Pyrometer, BD exhaust brake.
97 Ski-Doo 670 turbocharged
99 Honda Forman 450 ES

 

[GEORGE C]

hay, ted
i have the 4' exh. 275hp inj. and k/n filter, i have seen 29 psi. boost. this isn't normal is it. how will this affect the va box

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GEORGE C

1999 3500 4X4 5SP. 4. 10 GEARS U. S. GEAR O. D. BANKS MUFFLER&TAILPIPE
TRANSFER FLOW TANK\TOOLBOX COMBO.
32FT JAYCO 5TH WHEEL. 24 FT TAND/DUAL FLATBED 5TH WHEEL, 20FT TRIAXEL FLATBED 5TH WHEEL

 

[Ted Jannetty]

Hello George,
Don't sweat it, it will have no affect on the box or how it works.
The Box leaves all Factory saftey features in tact and only boosts fuel delivery and timing for awsome gains.
The Boost levels different people will see will differ for several reasons; wastegate adjustments, exhaust, air filter, the boost gauge accuracy, injectors, auto or manual, and they are all going to see big improvements with the box no matter what the boost gauge says.
We have seen as high as 24 lbs without the box, that doesn't mean the derating isn't working.
Everything has limits.

Ted Jannetty




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Ted Jannetty, Owner President Jannetty Racing Enterprises Inc.
97 3500 4x4 club cab 5spd. RED, JRE stage 3 power kit, JRE 4" exhaust
JRE 1/2 inch fuel system, Cummins 300 hp injectors, Prime loc,
Cummins chrome kit, US Gear 20% over drive, 3. 54 posi, Autometer
gauges, boost, and Pyrometer, BD exhaust brake.
97 Ski-Doo 670 turbocharged
99 Honda Forman 450 ES

 

[Ron R]

Ted,
What about the ECM cutting back the fuel at 20 psi? Will the VA take care of this?
Ron

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Ron R 1998 Ram 2500 Extended Cab 5 - speed 3. 54

 

[Ted Jannetty]

There are so many new members I thought I would move this back to the top.

Ted Jannetty

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Ted Jannetty, Owner President Jannetty Racing Enterprises Inc.
97 3500 4x4 club cab 5spd. RED, JRE stage 3 power kit, JRE 4" exhaust
JRE 1/2 inch fuel system, Cummins 300 hp injectors, Prime loc,
Cummins chrome kit, US Gear 20% over drive, 3. 54 posi, Autometer
gauges, boost, and Pyrometer, BD exhaust brake.
97 Ski-Doo 670 turbocharged
99 Honda Forman 450 ES

 

[Power Wagon]

Provided Vaughn is cooperative, and the dyno doesn't giveo out, I'm going to get a chance to run the ISB on a dyno in a couple of weeks, watch all the parameters, and then hook up a Van Aaken and try things again.

I will provide any interesting information I uncover, as well as the effectiveness of the "fix" I'm working on as well.

If you have any specific wishes, get them to me, and I'll try to help you out.



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Been a fuel injection tech for 13+ years. Someday, I'll actually LEARN this stuff...

 

[FL60cummins]

Stock turbo on a high horsepower ISB=big backpressuse #'s. Use a HX40 guys!!
If you use the 18. 5 housing, weld it shut! There is no need to wastegate it on the small motor. A company called "APEXi" sells a digital "in the cab" electronic device that can change the output signals from a M. A. P. or mass air sensor. It can be adjusted on a load/rpm/signal strength axis. Pretty trick unit!! #ad
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[This message has been edited by FL60cummins (edited 02-11-2000). ]

 

[Ted Jannetty]

An HX40 will not work on an ISB unless you do major modifications to fueling and reprogram the Air Fuel Control parameters so you can get fuel without boost.
The computer monitors boost and brings in the fuel to match, if you install an HX40 it will not make any boost and you will have the biggest dog you ever drove.
This may seem a little harsh, but it is to the point, without getting to deep into it.

Ted Jannetty

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Ted Jannetty, Owner President Jannetty Racing Enterprises Inc.
97 3500 4x4 club cab 5spd. RED, JRE stage 3 power kit, JRE 4" exhaust
JRE 1/2 inch fuel system, Cummins 300 hp injectors, Prime loc,
Cummins chrome kit, US Gear 20% over drive, 3. 54 posi, Autometer
gauges, boost, and Pyrometer, BD exhaust brake.
97 Ski-Doo 670 turbocharged
99 Honda Forman 450 ES