race suspension cont............

[CIverson]

Siping works great but if you run on gravel a lot you will chunk the heck out of the tires. My buddy siped his BFG Muds and loved it on the Wyoming ice. He had noticable improvement over the BFG MT as is.

I can't say I ever had any chunking on the MT's I had siped. I did get gravel stuck in the sipes every now and then though.

 

[JOblenes]

If you get those BFG MT's siped (little lines cut in the tread) it will make a night and day difference on hardpacked snow and ice.

I hear you. When I bought the tires for this truck I was really leaning towards the Procomps because they were sipped and could be studded. But I already had a brand new BFG MT that was from the spare on my old truck so I decided to stick with the BFG's. I discussed having them siped with the 4x4 shop where I bought the tires, but they told me that the siping would no t be very deep and that I would have them wore through before winter came, based on this advice I did not do it. Do you know how deep siping can really be cut? Calgary is a small city by American standards and sometimes we are limited in what services we can get, i. e. quality aftermarket siping.



Thanks,



Jonathan

 

[GiesJ]

According to Hoosiertire.com you should sipe no deeper than 1/2 the tread depth. Perhaps this was the problem with the chunking I mentioned earlier.

Sorry to take this thread away from race suspensions.

back to the regularly scheduled program...

 

[ohnoitsyu]

I think the hijack to siping tires killed the race suspension mood - too bad.

 

[CIverson]

I hear you. When I bought the tires for this truck I was really leaning towards the Procomps because they were sipped and could be studded. But I already had a brand new BFG MT that was from the spare on my old truck so I decided to stick with the BFG's. I discussed having them siped with the 4x4 shop where I bought the tires, but they told me that the siping would no t be very deep and that I would have them wore through before winter came, based on this advice I did not do it. Do you know how deep siping can really be cut? Calgary is a small city by American standards and sometimes we are limited in what services we can get, i. e. quality aftermarket siping.



Thanks,



Jonathan

Any tire shop that does Semi truck tires should be able to sipe them. Mine were about 1/2 tread depth. Lasted awhile. Plus you can always get them done again when the sipes are no longer... . if the tread is deep enough.



As for killing this thread, it wasn't going anywhere productive anyway, it was just fun to watch all the bickering

 

[Lorenz]

As for killing this thread, it wasn't going anywhere productive anyway

Do you Think anybody has taken a stroll to their driveway to have looksy? Come on I know somebody has had to have gotten under their truck... . It' been a week.



Rally cross and Body roll from cornering at speed... is it slow speed or high speed valving that you would want to tune to prevent it? How would that effect low speed small bump obsorption?

 

[ASchwartz]

I looked and found a bent axle.



Avi

 

[Lorenz]

I'm sorry I ment a "week" since the pictures of the metal to metal Fox has been posted.

 

[JOblenes]

Do you Think anybody has taken a stroll to their driveway to have looksy? Come on I know somebody has had to have gotten under their truck... . It' been a week.



Rally cross and Body roll from cornering at speed... is it slow speed or high speed valving that you would want to tune to prevent it? How would that effect low speed small bump obsorption?

I am going to say it is slow speed damping that you want to adjust which is then going to make the small bump absorption worse??. Sean, I know we talked some on the phone about valving and what some of the other shock manufacturers were recommending, for example what was shown in the Bilstein offroad shock manual (I actually called them and they were more than happy to talk damping rates, told them what I was looking for and they actually recommended something a little different then what was in their manual). You should have a look at this link (http://www.penskeshocks.com/Adjustable Tech Manual.pdf) go down to pages 15,16 and 17 these guys give lots of good info, but it is all about road racing. We need someone to write a manual like this from an offroad perspective, with the pros and cons of each adjustment for the different types of terrain. I know I have said before that I love messing with the suspension on my quad, but with a rear live axle it means it doesn't transfer the diagonal weight the same as I am anticipating on my truck.



have a kawi' 650 with solid rear axle incase anyone was wondering, the suspension is "upstream" of the axle hence the whole rear suspension cycles up/down as one.



Jonathan

 

[BILLUA]

I think that it boils down to this: Kore, Lorenz, Kelderman and Carli all build great suspensions for these trucks. I would not hesitate to buy from any of them.



The only thing that matters is having the proper suspension built for your intended use.



All the bickering over the above mentioned brands amount to "Pole Vaulting Over Ant Schit"





Cheers, Bill

 

[JOblenes]

slow speed damping question

Sean, I had my shocks apart the day they arrived in the mail, but forgot to look, do the sway a ways have a low speed bleed port, or how is the slow speed damping controlled (if it is, I realize not all shocks have this feature, is this feature common to offroad shocks?).



Jonathan

 

[Lorenz]

do the sway a ways have a low speed bleed port,



Jonathan

3 ports. 1 is open.

 

[blake underwood]

All the bickering over the above mentioned brands amount to "Pole Vaulting Over Ant Schit"



Cheers, Bill

I don't care who you are, that's FuNnY right there :-laf !!!ROTFLMAO