Relocating breather bottle - have a question

[TomGolden]

Howdy all,



I am going to be relocating my crankcase breather bottle and wanted to ask you all what kind of bottle did you use when you relocated yours? Did you just use the same bottle, and if so, then I'm guessing you kept it in the upright potition in the new location? Where seems to be the best new location for the bottle? I bought 15 feet of heater hose at Kragen last week, so I'm ready to do this.



Thanks,

Tom

 

[willyslover]

3/4" clear plastic tubbing . . zip tied along the frame rail to the back end of truck. . no bottle just aimed the tube at the car behind me

 

[DAWG-1]

If you want to be environmently friendly heres what I did. I bought a Jaz breather bottle, a K&N filter and 3' of 3/4" tubing. On the Jaz bottle there is two 1/4" inserts. I used these to mount it under the drivers side fender, attached to plastic fender liner behind bumper. I used the factory breather hose connected it to a barbed 3/4" elbow and then the new 3/4" tubing to a

3/4" barb x 3/4" mpt which I screwed into the side of the bottle.

 

[Bigsaint]

No bottle here!

Tom, becareful with your length that you run, keep it short, real short. I just added about one foot or so and it's tied off just below the fan, straight down, no bottle. Too long of a run equals the possibility of a freeze in the line and blown seals, in the colder climates. Mine works great, no mess anywhere.



Scott W.

 

[Brandon]

oh scott dont be a grandma... ... ... . one thing cali has going for it is the weather







we freeze when its 50 degrees he he he





oh gary the clear tube is real cute it looks like a small onan generator exh pipe coming out of the rear bumper



hmmmm maybe thats how you are getting all that extra power... .



I second dog's recc. jaz bottle under fender is nice

 

[Alan Reagan]

I used the same bottle when I relocated to the transmission crossmember. Yesterday, when I got home, I noticed a little "vapor" coming from under the truck. When I looked, I found my bottle had disappeared. The line is pointed down and there is no residue underneath so I'll probably leave it off.

 

[EMDDIESEL]

I just ran a hose straight down to the ground, but Damgs idea is good, also, you can make a "custom" bratehr bottle using PVC pipe and fittings.

 

[Alan Reagan]

I was thinking about finding an old A/C dryer. You know the aluminum cylinder deal. Then, I wanted to put a drain cock in it a the bottom, an inlet fitting for the 3/4 hose and a vent line. Yeah, I know it sounds complicated but, if I'm going to have a "catcher", I want a valve on it to open and not have to worry about removing the bottle from its top and pouring it out. Right now, I'm just venting into free space so I don't have to drain anyway.

 

[EMDDIESEL]

Those "Catch cans" as they are called from Summit are only about 25 bucks, come in six colors and have a metal drain cock in the bottom. They also make a breather bottle fopr sry sump systems that has the drain cock, plus a K&N filter on top, that would make a really cool breather bottle. www.summitracing.com

 

[John]

Scott is correct! I HAD my breather hose extended inside the frame rail to a termination point just ahead of the OE fuel tank, keeping the hose at a perpetual downward slope its ENTIRE run. In the late Summer when I installed it it was OK... subsequent checks for the next several months also looked good. HOWEVER, once the weather got colder (which isn't really all that cold in western Washington), a sludge started to form in the last 5 or so feet of the hose due to vapor condensation in the hose. Go ahead and install a long one however, you have been fore warned... and we all know what happens when the hose plugs...







DOH!

 

[Alan Reagan]

Thanks EMD. I thought I had seen one somewhere but, I be gittin old and, and what were we talking about? Oh yeah, the cannisters. I'll check out Summit.

 

[JohnB]

I built one from PVC--try to follow this: About 8" of 1 1/2" pvc pipe. Glued a cap with a 3/4" f/male thread. Took a 3/4" plastic barbed fitting and taped the end away from the barb 1/2" pipe and installed a 7" long 1/2' standpipe screwed into the top. Tapped a 1/2" pipe hole a couple inches down from the top and screwed another barb in for a 3/4" hose which runs out thru the bumper bracket. On the bottom I used a threaded 1 1/2" cap which is unscrewed to dump any oil that collects. Used the stock tie clamp from the original bottle. It mounts in the same place as original and the stock hose from the breather plugs into the top barb. Oil mist has to go down the standpipe and back up 8", make a 90 degree turn to get out the exit hose. So far no vapor from hose. I was going to put a baffle inside, but no need. Gee it seemed clear before I typed it!

 

[DAWG-1]

Try this www.jazproducts.com . The selections are endless. I would buy a 3/4" barb x 3/4" npt , then you can locate this a couple inche down from the top. The bottle I have has a drain valve on the bottom and a small hole in the top. The top hole I opened up to 3/4" and put a small K&N filter. One caution is if your motor is not broke in you will need to check often and make sure your hose runs down to the bottle.

 

[SEmerson]

Why not pipe it into the exhaust??? Seems like a clean way.

 

[EMDDIESEL]

Becasue you would be blowing blue smoke, have oil dripping from your exhaust and plus, you dont want exhaust air going into the engine through that hose, that would be BAD.

 

[OILBRNR]

Can't help but notice that most of you have new trucks. I too was a bit freaked when I saw white smoke coming from the front of my Ram when new. And stunned when I discovered the source. Hadn't seen that since an early '60's Corvair just dumping the blowby to the world!



However as the rings seated, I have little accumulation on the steering box, and nothing that every six months a bath with Simple Green doesn't take care of. JMHO.

 

[KMatheson]

Closed loop Breather Bottle

I fab'd a closed loop system similar to a Walker Air Sep for less than $30.



Breather hose from the engine is routed to a remote 4" diameter plastic catch bottle with 2 hose fittings thru the lid; second hose has K&N crancase breather inside the plastic container with hose going thru the lid to the atmospheric side of the air cleaner box. All the plumbing is PVC with some o-ring seals.



Most of the oil mist condenses in the container, the remainder gets vented into the air cleaner box and inhaled by the engine.



No mess; oil fumes consumed by the engine; no smell (especially after a fresh oil change); keeps the K& N air filter lightly oiled as well.



15K miles so far; works great !!



2001 H. O. 4X4; Van Aiken fueling module; K&N Air Filter; straight exaust; Shell Rotella; loves the mountains here in Oregon !!

 

[JMoglia]

Wow lots of really good ideas,I just took my bottle off and put a new hose directly on the vent going uphill toward master cylinder then down and into frame and out again near exhaust,i'm hopeing the exhaust will burn off any condensation. you know the closed loop sounds the best, balanced pressure is so important though don't want to blow gaskets anyhow i'll check mine out come winter,see whatssup if I have to i'll change again. good luck, Joe Moglia

 

[24V-DSL]

I did it like Bigsaint....

Tom... . works fine.



I'm very fussy about my undercarriage... . will be putting Mag-hytec on the front if they come out in my lifetime.....



Anyway, there won't be any spray/splatter on any components. All other ideas are fine too, I just kept it simple.

 

[Hammer]

EMD,,I'd have to disagree with the statement you made against the exhaust evac system,,See if the same style valve is used like on a set of race headers it will only flow one way and will not feed back into the motor at all,,You will have to have the port welded into the exhaust underneath and feed the tube to it so it will evac all the dreaded moisture thru the exhaust and not making anything to drain out later,,I do not understand the systems out there designed to route it back thru the turbo and motor at all,,I mean think here a little,while they are all well designed for certain,they still are allowing moisture(water and oil mixed) to flow thru the turbo,intercooler(where with its numerous bends and crevices there are places to accumulate) and into the motor,,Seems to me that all that crap does not vented thru the turbo and with its water content should eventually lead to a failure at some point or a intercooler blockage,,I am not a expert,but,I know from past experiences you can send it out the exhaust safely without sending it thru the complete intercooler system,,just my . 02... ...