2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Remote start and manual trans

[Wyomingcowboy]

Anybody ever do this? How hard would it be?

 

[ttbird]

Can be done but it usually requires that the parking brake be set. Our parking brakes have something to be desired so your risking the truck moving when started unattended or else left in gear which could be a real BIG problem. If your the only one using it, you could go for it but sooner or later you'll forget. I wonder how I know this! Tom

 

[rholcom2]

Yes, I had a Viper unit installed on my 98. 5. This unit provided keyless entry (which my truck lacked a factory installed system) as well as the remote start. The system came as a gift from my wife (its the thought that counts..... right?) and was installed by a total idiot. There was no "neutral lock" or "parking brake" lock. Regardless of the existance of any of these features I would NOT do this again. Following the install I consulted the wiring diagram for the Viper unit and disabled the remote start with a switch. I never used the remote start. If I could offer any advice, I would most likely steer you away from trying this unless they have a tried and true method for installing on a manual transmission truck.

 

[HPetrat]

It can be done, but, if you are going to have the unit installed you may find it difficult to find an installer who will do it.



From my experiance, most installers are somewhat hesitant to install these units into manual trans. vehicles for the very reasons ttbird mentioned.



I would also echo ttbird's comment with regard to the E-brake on our trucks, as they do leave alot to be desired.



By the way Tom... How do you know this?:-laf:-laf



Harry

 

[ttbird]

It can be done, but, if you are going to have the unit installed you may find it difficult to find an installer who will do it.



From my experiance, most installers are somewhat hesitant to install these units into manual trans. vehicles for the very reasons ttbird mentioned.



I would also echo ttbird's comment with regard to the E-brake on our trucks, as they do leave alot to be desired.



By the way Tom... How do you know this?:-laf:-laf



Harry

Ask the bushes at the end of my driveway!:-laf No damage to anything but I was lucky and learned my lesson

 

[jelag]

I would be so afraid of this... . lots of reasons why... . but our habit is to always leave the truck in gear... and I personally don't use the parking brake unless the truck is running in very cold or very hot weather to keep the heat / AC system working...

 

[GBlaksley]

A friend of mine put a remote starter kit in his Toyota truck. Worked well until he forgot to leave it out of gear. He disabled it right after he bought a new garage door.

 

[kenny61]

Parked my truck one night went inside cot changed and went to bed. 5 minutes later heard big boom. from what my investigation revealed. when i parked the truck I did not have it fully in gear. Parking brake popped and the resulting jerk knocked the transmission into neutral. Truck rolled down driveway and totaled my old BMW. my e brake has popped 3 more times since this happend. now i dooble tap the shifter to make sure its fully in gear and make sure the front wheels are pointed in a safe direction

 

[SierraRam]

I always use my parking break but suspect I could still start the truck in gear, especially 1st. My luck it would idle right into my pool in the back yard!

 

[BigPapa]

My parking brake is TOTALLY unreliable. It has popped off MANY times and I will not trust it again. When I can afford it, I will install a hydraulic locking valve.



Scott

 

[Forrest Nearing]

just buy a quality system designed for manual transmissions... not some back-woods hack job!



I had a Clifford alarm on my '98. In order to use the remote start, you had to press a button on the fob, the lights would flash, then you would pull the key out with the truck running. Obviously the parking brake had to be engaged. You then hopped out of the truck, closed the door, and armed the alarm.



If ANY part of the sequence was broken or any alarm input was triggered or the brake pedal was depressed or the parking brake was released, it wouldn't remote start. It was 100% fail safe as long as your parking brake works



I never had any issues with it. Obviously if I was parking on any sort of serious incline, I wouldn't use the remote start and I would leave the truck in gear.

 

[Wyomingcowboy]

Where could I find a replacement auto lock/unlock/panic switch that came with my truck? I lost the key chain that I had it on. Is that a dealer item?

 

[BSmalley]

I converted my 94 auto to an NV 4500 last year and still use the remote. Absolutely must have the clutch pedal safety switch. I use a piece of hard wood "notched" between the seat frame and the clutch pedal and I usually park in a level area. I always leave the truck in neutral and have never had a problem.

 

[kenny61]

I think that would create a lot of thrust on the crank and a lot of wear on the throw out bearing

 

[tgordon]

I thought about this, then winter hit. I seen to have trouble with my brakes freezing to the drums. (Might have something to do with driving throught the deepest part of the drift across the road) Hence I tend to be aprehensive about using the park brake unless just running into the store etc.



IMHO I will stick to simply going out in the cold and cranking. How do they set them up to wait for the heaters to go off before cranking?

 

[HPetrat]

I thought about this, then winter hit. I seen to have trouble with my brakes freezing to the drums. (Might have something to do with driving throught the deepest part of the drift across the road) Hence I tend to be aprehensive about using the park brake unless just running into the store etc.



IMHO I will stick to simply going out in the cold and cranking. How do they set them up to wait for the heaters to go off before cranking?

Usually they will install a timer relay or they can be triggered by the voltage pulse when the manifold heater cuts out.

The unit I saw in Calgary Alberta, many years ago, would override the clutch switch and allow the truck to start via remote (yes, it could start with the truck in gear). Sales guy said that they would not install (liability and I believe law), had to do it myself if I wanted it.



My truck does not have the remote entry option but I did discover that I could start the truck and then remove the key from the ignition and lock the doors leaving the truck running.

To date it is something I have very rarely done, as it we don't have the low temperatures that some of you are dealing with here. As well, the police will give you grief about it... and don't ask me how I know this:-laf



HP

 

[JLandry]

How do they set them up to wait for the heaters to go off before cranking?

The Clarion remote start / alarm system I installed on my truck (made by Directed Electronics Inc. ) monitors the Wait-to-Start light circuit for the lamp to go out. After the WTS light extinguishes, the remote start computer energizes the starter motor for 0. 6 seconds. The starter energize time is programmable. Next the remote start computer verifies the engine is actually running by sensing a change in the electrical system voltage or tach circuit.



Clarion SR6000 Remote Start / Alarm



It works great and has never failed to start the truck.



John L.