Rotella-T 15W-40 & Oil Filters????

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Was wandering what everyones thoughts were on Shell's Rotella-T 15W-40 for the Cummins? And wanted to know what type of oil filter to you all use?

Later,
Peep

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97 Reg. Cab 4x4 auto, Red/Driftwood/Red SLT Laramie, Leather package, Camper Package, 3. 54. Stock! Lafayette, Indiana

 

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The Best oil filter is Fleetguard Microglass P# LF-3552. Genos garage has good prices on them. If your engine is broken in, I suggest trying a good Synthetic oil. You will never go back to Conventional. Just make sure its API approved and meets the CH-4 SJ requirement. I use Royal Purple 15W-40 during the summer and Amsoil 5W-30 in the winter. Your truck will run much smoother, quieter, have a little more tourque and get better mileage... . Good Luck ;-)

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I use rottella t in my tractors and my ram and I am a beliver in shell oil we have a 1933 B john deere that has been on the farm almost 40 years still use it to cultivate every year it's had the old shell X 100 in the red can for most of those years had to do a valve job but pistons and rings have been there as far as we know since new also have a 305 chevy motor 120000 miles pull a valve cover and no sludge a friend was with me he couldn't believe how clean it is so for me it's readily available Walmart has it but I buy it by the barrel forget the price but very cost effictive . I read a lot about synthetics and extended changes but the oil is to high for every 6500-7000 miles oil changes but I know it's good oil but 24 years of driving and never had an oil releated failure So use what you like but keep a schedule and DO IT.

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Tim

 

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I dont understand that, i think "AMSoil" 15-40 Synthetic is only about $40 for 12 qts. and if you change Rotella at 4-5k miles for about $20, the synthetic would go 8-10k miles for the same cost and give you the advantage of the synthetic oil. (For the "Mobil " guys you could do the same thing. )



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95-2500-ExtCab-LB-4x4-auto-AMSoil Air Filter, Bypass Oil Filter by others & AMSoilman.

 

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I AM A SHELL OIL MAN . ROTELLA T IS A VERY GOOD OIL TO USE IN YOUR TRUCK. I HAVE SEEN IT USED THE LAST 25 YEARS. CHANGE IT ABOUT EVERY 5,000 MILES . YOU WILL LIKE IT. COST WISE YOU CAN NOT BEAT IT. NUMBER 5 DIESEL FOR ME.

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97-CC-4X4-5spd-12V-Aluminum TB-Bed Rails-Bedliner-Mopar Mud Flaps-Westin Nerf Bars-Moss Green w/Camel-285/16 BFG A/T-Jesus Tag

 

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I use Rotella in the Cummins and everything else. Farm tractors, lawnmowers, wife's car, you name it. $5 a gallon by the case at Sam's or your local wholesale oil jobber. Check what they keep the most inventory of at truck stops. It must be doing the job.

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My first oil change I used Shell Rotella but didn't like the smell for the first few hundred miles. A previous thread suggested Shell was the only oil that did that. Wrong!!! My last oil change I used Chevron Delvac 400. If anything the smell was worse than Shell. They both are probably good oil but don't care for the smell after oil change. Anyone know why a diesel does that? Wonder if PSD does it also. Never had gas engine do it.

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Paul Somers
1999 QC ISB 5 speed with
boost and pyro gauges.
Driftwood

 

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PS: The LF3552 is for the 12 valve. The standard for the ISB is LF3885 and the microglass I think is LF3694. Someone will correct me if I missed on the microglass P/N.

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Paul Somers
1999 QC ISB 5 speed with
boost and pyro gauges.
Driftwood

 

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I have been using Valvoline Premium Blue 15W-40 for the last 15,000 miles. The new FleetGuard part # 3894 is the new Stratopore oil filter--$8. 00+ for the filter and $8. 00+ a gallon for the Premium Blue from a Cummins Dealership. For some reason I was advised not the use the synthetic blend 2000 by the Cummins dealer in my area...
Softe

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I use Valvoline All Fleet 15W-40 with the Fleetguard micro-glass LF3894. Oil analysis reports very good results. I'm going to run this oil until 30K miles and then go to Amsoil synthetic.

John

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1999 Dodge Ram 3500 Quad Cab 5 spd, 4:10 LSD rear, Mag-Hytec diff. cover, Speedliner spray in bed-liner, Amsoil foam air filter; Smittybuilt step rails, US Gear EGT and Boost gauge. Towing a 31 ft. NOMAD single slideout TT.
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I have been using the Valvoline Premium Blue 15w-40 since the first oil change. Also, LF3552 microglass oil filter. I have never noticed any smell after an oil change. I too was told by my local Cummins dealer (large repair facility just off I-95) that they did not recommend the PB2000 synthetic. Not because it is not good for the engine. They explained that it was only necessary for longer change intervals and that if you change your oil at less than 10,000 mile intervals it wasn't benificial. The other problem according to them is that if you start using synthetic you can NEVER stop using synthetic. They were emphatic about that. I have a question though. I have seen posts about the LF3552 microglass and the 24v engine. Can it still be used? I have talked to Cummins and they tell me it is still the best to use. I then called Fleetguard and talked to a technician there. They told me the same thing. They quoted the micron level of filtration and said it was better in the LF3552 than the Stratapore. Both told me that there is no problem with the case on the LF3552. Does anyone know otherwise??
Thanks, Dave

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99 QC SB 4x4 Auto
Factory Ordered
Most Options

 

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There was a post about a month ago (can't remember from who) which listed an e-mail reply from the "Cummins Powermaster" which I thought said that the LF3885 with the stata-pore element was the new standard for the ISB. Can anyone else remember that one?

It sounds like plenty of people are currently using the micro-glass filters with no problems (myself included), but I am thninking of trying the LF3885 when my supply runs out.

 

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I always use Rotella T in my truck. I use to work for a oil jobber and Ill tell you we sold about 30 times as much rotella as compared to the Delo. And we never sold any synthetic. It seems to me that if the Rotella is good enough for the big rigs they would be good enough for ours also

 

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Not to start a war here but I have only found Rotella T 15w-40 API service category CG-4 SH the 10w-30 API service category CG-4 SH. This category CG-4 was introduced in 1995 for engines meeting 1994 emissions standards, and SH is for modile year 1996 and older. That is why I went with Delo-400 15w-40 rated CH-4 SJ. CH-4 is designed to meet 1998 exaust emissions, and SJ is for 1996 and up engines. My information comes from www.api.org. (the American Petroleum Institute) And I also looked at the product label. Lae me knaw If I'm wrong on this.

Also I see no reason why you can't go back to regular oil after using a synthetic. Makes no sence to me at all. Can someone explane this to me?

Don

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"The Shadow" 1999 Dodge Ram SLT 2500 QC 5spd 3. 55lsd, Short Bed, Sport, Black / Tan Interior, Trailer tow package, Camper package, Infinity sound.

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Lapeer, Michigan



[This message has been edited by Don Marriott (edited 10-06-1999). ]

 

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O. K... . did anyone else catch the phrase in one of the above posts??!!??!!

If not . . Here it is. . ;

The other problem according to them is that if you start using synthetic you can NEVER stop using synthetic. They were emphatic about that.


WOAH NELLY!!!!>>>>!!!!

Say again... All After Problem. . !!

This Rang my bell!!!

I wonder what the thinking was here... ?
PLEASE POST MORE INFO!!!!

I have intended to switch to synthetics for the winter. . then back to "Pensoil Long Life HD Diesel 15w40" for the summer months

My current choice for the synthetic is Mobil Delo 1 5W-40

I have always understood that the new synthetics are neutral... and will not react to natural oil.

My understanding of compatability problems goes WAY BACK to 2 cycle engines.

If you had "Golden Spectro" or another natural oil mixed into the fuel ... then tried to switch to say "Purple Power Lube" , or some other synthetic. . they would "Gel" the fuel and make a hell of a mess. !

I don't think the newer products do this... but I need advice!

Anyone else get a "Pi$$ Shiver" when they read the statement about never being ABLE to go back?? or is it just me??

Larry



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'99 2500 C. C. SLT,4X4, Auto, SWB, Forest Gr. /Driftwood, Tow Pkg. , Smittybilt S. S. Nerf Bars, Factory Tow Hooks, K&N, Mag-Hytech transmission, Dodge 3 Pc. Bug-Flector, 7 7/8 coats of wax. . Yes Sir That's My Baby!!

 

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Larry
I also noticed the statement. #ad
(read my post above yours) I'd like some answers too. I plan to use Delvac 1 this winter but I might go back to regular oil someday.

Don

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"The Shadow" 1999 Dodge Ram SLT 2500 QC 5spd 3. 55lsd, Short Bed, Sport, Black / Tan Interior, Trailer tow package, Camper package, Infinity sound.

Lapeer, Michigan



[This message has been edited by Don Marriott (edited 10-06-1999). ]

 

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Just a note about synthetic oil. I used Amoil 5w-30 diesel oil in my 95 cummins for a while. I didn't see any of the benefits that they were advertising. For the cost of the oil I don't think it is worth it. I switched back to Valvoline 15w-40 without any problems. My truck has 139,600 miles without any oil use. Just my opinion on synthetic oil. Hope this helps.

 

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Thanks for the info. guys!!!!!1

I have always used Rotella-T 15W-40. We have used it in farm tractors and semis and never had any problems. I used it in another small truck that I had and it has over 265,000 miles on it and going strong. Nothing has been done to the engine either. My father has always used it in his vehicles and they all have over 200,000 miles. Just thought that I would get other opinions on the use.

Thanks!!!!!
Peep

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97 Reg. Cab 4x4 auto, Red/Driftwood/Red, SLT Laramie, Camel, Camper Package, Tow Package, 3. 54. Stock! West Lafayette, Indiana

 

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I've been switching back and forth between Delvac 1 and Delvac 1300. Have had no problems. I usually have both on hand. Currently my 6. 9 has a mixture of the 2. The oil pan leaks and I ran out of 1300. Regards, bilford.

 

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Larry and Don,

Most Synthetic base stocks used to manufacture a synthetic oil are compatible with petrolium base stocks.

Polyalphaolefin-(PAO's) are from ethylene(gas)reacted with metal catalyst.

Diesters-Grain alcohol reacted with a fatty acid catalyst.

Polyol Esters-Fatty acids reacted with polyhydric acids.

Phosphate Esters-Synthesized phosphorus oxychloride and alcohol or phenols.

Silicones-Organo-siloxane polymers.

All of these synthetic base stocks are compatible with petrolium base stocks with the exception of Silicones!

On a scale of 1-5 the Silicone rates a 4.

Blended Synthetic Base Stocks and PAO's rate a 1.

Diester and Polyolester rate a 2.

Phosphate Ester rates a 3.

They all have varying atributes such as Viscosity behavior, lubricity, volotility, fire resistance, oxidation stability, thermal stability, solvency etc.

Whoever said that "once a Synthetic is used in an engine, one can not go back to a petrolium product", is Ignorant of the facts!

This is not a true statement! You can go back to a petrolium based product after using a synthetic based product. However, after using a synthetic based product, most people will not go back due to the advantages of the synthetic based products. The greatest benefit being LESS WEAR!

My . 02 Cents,

Wayne
amsoilman

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94'SLT 4X4 AT/White in color. Factory Tow Hooks & Running Boards. Amsoil By-Pass filter, Amsoil Air cleaner,and all fluids are Amsoil.
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