Seriously thinking about running RED

[The patriot]

Yup.

That's what I heard. Guilty til proven innocent.

Youre at their mercy with this one (like it's any different with anything else in reference to gub-ment)

Eric

 

[Champane Flight]

Xylene

The amount of red dye per gallon is miniscule (approx . 0005571 gallons per) in our terminal. Xylene is a very dry agent. Red diesel and road diesel is the same in our area, high sulfer diesel is hard to find in most of the US . Most refineries have discontinued high sulfer runs. Most major fuel suppliers blend fuel at refinery to temp of area supply is going to. This cuts down on gell cases. Some jobbers however even go further and cut more #1 into there #2, this only cuts the fuel mileage and power further. Our fuel is rated at -10 to -25 straight #2 gell point. Minus 25 is the gell point of our Premium diesel, which is only a high additive package. This is winter fuel, summer fuel goes 0- 10+ on gell point, but cetane rises to 47-49. Winter fuel is usually around 43-46.



If you want to run red, it will probably not run any different than green. However if you get busted, it will hurt your pocketbook. I don't want to see it in my truck as it is hard to clean out and I just don't like it! Poo poo ca ca... .

 

[WDaniels]

How many colours of fuel do they have? On this post I've read green, yellow, red and someone told me today that there is a blue also. What do all the colours stand for?

WD

 

[illflem]

Red= offroad no tax

Blue= commercial-- heard this is being phased out but is for non road commercial use like fishing boats.

Green or clear(yellow)= onroad taxable



I read the plan is to eventually have just one dyed fuel, red.

 

[Ncostello]

Get busted in Indiana and its $200 for the first time and something like 1 or 2K the second time. Ignoring the money, I wouldn't want the Class A Misdemeanor charge or Class D Infraction on my record. And I wouldn't want anything to do with cheating the IRS or Excise Police. In that case you ARE guilty until proven innocent.



We have an old 60's model Mack tractor at work we haul to jobsites on a lowboy. Its not plated, would never pass DOT, and runs red. State police showed up one day and thats the first truck they went to. We got fined. They said even though its not plated, you still have to register the vehicle as off-road only through the Indiana Dept. of Revenue and keep the papers handy. They also frequent auctions to check all the diesel duallys that show up.

 

[speedracer]

I don't personnally know anybody who has been tested, and I've never been tested, even in the big truck. If I had a diesel tractor instead of my old gas Ford 800, then I'd probably have a tank for red here at the house. Then I'd probably run it in the dodge(but not the big truck!). But since I don't have a need for diesel except in the pickup, I'm not going to go to the trouble of getting a storage tank just so I can run red in the pickup.

 

[GeneralMachine]

Red Fuel

We have a overhead tank for our engine dyno (red fuel) can't see any difference on the horse power these engines will pull than with the on road, we have ran out of the red and had to switch. The engine didn't seem to know the diff. I really think the only diff is like was said the dye. Harv

 

[daveshoe]

#2 fuel and Offroad Red

I got a tankful of offroad #2 at the same time the driver was filling the furnace. He took it out of the furnace tank , reset the gauge, and pumped it from the same source , Furnace=taxed and offroad=untaxed.

The Old Order German Baptists [similar to Amish] use tractors in business like landscaping and construction just like we use trucks. They pull 20 foot trailers, use Bobcats and manlifts, and do not license them at all. Also run red fuel. Buggies are used for church and formal occasions only. They do not concern themselves with workers comp and child labor laws, If you bid against them, you will lose. My local lumber yard even imports them in to do pole barns. They hire drivers to bring them to the jobsite and wonder why I bid their company off against other lumber yards.

Excuse me , Was this a thread about red fuel? :{