Ya them old guys are pretty tough. My Dad had to have his gal bladder removed before he would go to the hospital he was laying face down on the front room floor with his fist on his stomach. I was sitting on the coffee table looking at him ,he asked what the hell you wondering? I just wondered how you can live like this for the rest of your life? His next couple of sentences are not publishable even in the most pornographic magazine and then he asked you going to just sit there or are you going to help me? help you what? go to the )((**&&^%%$$$#$##@@ Hospital you %%%*(()(%#%_()_)_&% OK I will take that as you are wanting to go to see the doctor.