Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Smarty S03 (98-02) Revolution software is now available

[johncameron]

This past weekend I did 1671-KM on 183-Liters of fuel! (-:



That works out to 21. 5MPG or 11L/100K.



I had about 2200lbs of equipment in the truck plus myself and another guy who weighs in well over 300LBS. I also have a high-top cap on the box.



I set my smarty to SW1 with default TQ and duration and topped the timing up to #4. I cruised at 65MPH using the smarty's speed limiter as cruise control.



My EGT's and boost were lower than ever on flats!



The REVO software is working for me!



John

 

[aircop]

NoSeeUm when I turn the duration up high in my truck, the truck seems sluggish. I think we all have alot of testing to do. But for DD I like SW3,TQ6,TM3,D0. TST Off.

 

[Boondocker]

NoSeeUm when I turn the duration up high in my truck, the truck seems sluggish. I think we all have alot of testing to do. But for DD I like SW3,TQ6,TM3,D0. TST Off.

I posted a similar finding earlier in this thread, that higher duration settings weakened "roll-on" power. For now I'm sticking with D1 since I don't know what default settings are.

 

[NoSeeUm]

NoSeeUm when I turn the duration up high in my truck, the truck seems sluggish. I think we all have alot of testing to do. But for DD I like SW3,TQ6,TM3,D0. TST Off.

I tested this myself, I really did not find it to be true or false. I am not sure the effect that duration has as it is so over shadowed by any torque adjsutment.



One thing I did find that I am now 100% certain of:



This is correct.....

You have to re-load the software for it to make changes in the ECM.

John Cameron, is the MAN!!!!



This is wrong... .

I do not think you have to reload sw9, all you do is plug in the smarty and go to adjust options. From their you can quickly make option changes and it writes in about 3 sec. then your done.

Sounds good, but no cigar... .

Last night I changed TM from 3 to 6 by "Adjust Options" only. The update took about 3 seconds and I could definately feel a difference in how the engine performed.

Must have been a placebo effect...

Last night I decided to experiment a little. With the engine still running I changed from D6 to D2 and also changed T2 to T5. I did this change with the engine still running and it seemed to work fine. Basically no different than having the engine off and the key on.

Ah, at last fully decieved... .

I went one step further and tryed it while driving down the road, no problems here

Errr, bad idea says Bob W. :{





I now think that the Smarty loads the options only into only its own memory not the trucks ECM memory when the message something like "loaded options into memory" is displayed, after the 3 second delay. These options are then loaded into the ECM when it does a regular Catcher SW update.



Jim

 

[DHayden]

Yesterday I tried SW4 with TQ4 Timing 3 Dur 0 and comp on 1X1. The outcome was not what I expected. There was NO smoke, not even a puff. It was hard to build boost (almost 1750rpm before boost came on but not very fast) and it felt like I had the battleship Missouri's anchor attached to my bumper. I know its not accurate but my overhead was reading 15mpg on the highway when normally it reads 22-23.

I figured with the lack of smoke that there was not alot of wasted fuel but the non scientific indicators and seat of the pants told me this was not a good setting. The engine however sounded fine.

 

[NoSeeUm]

I had just tried SW4 and found out the same thing as you. Very sluggish permformance and a world of difference between that and SW3 with the same option settings.



Jim

 

[Boondocker]

I had just tried SW4 and found out the same thing as you. Very sluggish permformance and a world of difference between that and SW3 with the same option settings.



Jim

Wow, it's not just me then. In the middle of a trip today, I stopped to change settings:

from - SW3, TQ4, TM3, D-1

to - SW4, TQ3, TM3, D-1



Since I changed SW & TQ, I'm not sure which had the most effect, but the latter setting was sluggish compared to the former.



Note to self - only change one setting at a time. I'll change back to SW3 half way through the ride home to see if that's a bigger difference than the TQ setting.

 

[jtisdale]

This past weekend I did 1671-KM on 183-Liters of fuel! (-:



That works out to 21. 5MPG or 11L/100K.



I had about 2200lbs of equipment in the truck plus myself and another guy who weighs in well over 300LBS. I also have a high-top cap on the box.



I set my smarty to SW1 with default TQ and duration and topped the timing up to #4. I cruised at 65MPH using the smarty's speed limiter as cruise control.



My EGT's and boost were lower than ever on flats!



The REVO software is working for me!





John

DUDE!!!

Whats up with the 200mph speedometer!?!?!

 

[jtisdale]

Sorry, I figured it out... :-laf:-laf

 

[johncameron]

Sorry, I figured it out... :-laf:-laf

I wish I could do 105MPH @ 4lbs of boost and 600F pre turbo(-:

 

[PRout]

Quick verification please: Is Timing setting #3 more advanced than Timing setting #2?

If you are not sure, then please don't guess. - Thanks

 

[Bob Wagner]

yes it is . more timing as level number increases

 

[johncameron]

yes it is . more timing as level number increases

So if timing #3 is for aftermarket injectors, can I tow with that setting?

I have Edge Jammer 3's (100HP)

John

 

[PRout]

Great - Thanks Bob. . 3 is working pretty good on my rig. (with 100hp aftermarket injectors). No timing hammer at all at that setting so I feel pretty safe towing at that level.

 

[aircop]

Timing #3 works good on my truck with the Smarty only, TSTComp doesn't like it. On SW3 and Timing 3 I have a noticeable increase in timing rattle. Would not tow heavy with it.

 

[JGoss]

We tried the revo and like it empty, but loaded(approx. 28k ) we haven't found the right combination. Our last one was sw#9, tm 6, ti 2, and duration 3. Theres a hill near a stop sign and with the old sw hitting 4th gear was no problem, now 2nd gear is about it. What gives, are the default settings the same as the non revo softwares, or will I need to put the old program back on? There are a few softwares on the Mads site, the revo and a few non revos. Are they the same other than that the revo program can be adjusted by the end user. The truck is an 02' nv4500, 4x4 which is pretty well stock other than smarty, 4" exhaust, and gauges. I may have to download old reliable which we had no problems with.

 

[rotohead]

So am I correct in assuming that a 98. 5 auto won't see any difference in performance adjusting the TM optional setting with any sw#?

 

[aircop]

When you use default settings sw is the same as old sw.

 

[rotohead]

When you use default settings sw is the same as old sw.

Well, that's not exactly what I'm asking.
Is this option disfuntional to 98. 5 no matter what you set it to. I would imagine it's like a 'greyed out' option in pc software.
Is there a TM feature in 1998. 5 model ECM? If not then that feature of REVO has no benefit.

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

but loaded(approx. 28k ) we haven't found the right combination. the old sw hitting 4th gear was no problem, now 2nd gear is about it. What gives, The truck is an 02' nv4500, 4x4 which is pretty well stock other than smarty, 4" exhaust, and gauges. I may have to download old reliable which we had no problems with.

28,000 lbs on a STOCK truck is asking ALOT. @ 28K the N. T. H. S. A sure wouldn't be too thrilled :-laf But being a betting man I would say that with the Revo you changed power delivery over to the early side of delivery through a stock engine coupled with the ever so frail stock clutch. With a load like that air and fuel just cannot make it through the engine fast enough in the new powerband.