Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Smarty S03 (98-02) Revolution software is now available

[pcarlson]

What is the Answer?

Bob,



It was asked earlier by another member and no one answered so I will ask it again; All these new settings/adjustments also correspond to a default setting so what is the default setting of each of the 9 programs? This would save alot of playing around and TIME.



Example: SW#3 default settings are Torque: 2, Timing: 4, Duration:3. Knowing this when I am playing around I can avoid these settings so I experience something different. Some said that they had SW#9 maxed out and who knows that could be the same as the default settings for #9 equalling no real change from before other than in your mind thinking you changed something.

 

[2000BlackCloud]

I do not think you have to reload sw9, all you do is plug in the smarty and go to adjust options. From their you can quickly make option changes and it writes in about 3 sec. then your done. The only time you need to reload a software is when you change from sw9 to sw7 etc. But you can change the options on the fly so to speak. It never even prompts you to cut the key on if your just switching options! Does anyone know what the heck duration is changing in the motor?????? Been playing with it but hard to tell by that alone!



Buddy

 

[Sixpack]

Bob,



It was asked earlier by another member and no one answered so I will ask it again; All these new settings/adjustments also correspond to a default setting so what is the default setting of each of the 9 programs? This would save alot of playing around and TIME.



Example: SW#3 default settings are Torque: 2, Timing: 4, Duration:3. Knowing this when I am playing around I can avoid these settings so I experience something different. Some said that they had SW#9 maxed out and who knows that could be the same as the default settings for #9 equalling no real change from before other than in your mind thinking you changed something.

I think I read that if you enter 0 for all three options (torque, timing & duration) that is the catcher program.



I too, would like to know how the three settings affect the engine.

 

[pcarlson]

Sixpack,



I understand that zero is the default Catcher but that default has a value, so what is it? Example if Torque is 0-6, the default Catcher is zero and stock is 1 so then the default value corresponds to a number 2-6. I want to know the default value for each stock Catcher setting, as I already knew zero set the default. Is that that any clearer?



2000BlackCloud,



Duration is changing the lenght of time the injector is open supplying fuel.

 

[2000BlackCloud]

Thanks pcarlson, so in theory if your turbo can handle the added duration "fuel" the more power you can build?

 

[jkalchik]

I do not think you have to reload sw9, all you do is plug in the smarty and go to adjust options. From their you can quickly make option changes and it writes in about 3 sec. then your done. The only time you need to reload a software is when you change from sw9 to sw7 etc. But you can change the options on the fly so to speak. It never even prompts you to cut the key on if your just switching options! Does anyone know what the heck duration is changing in the motor?????? Been playing with it but hard to tell by that alone!



Buddy

I don't think so. I was tinkering in front of my computer with the Smarty interface while the Smarty hooked up to a USB port. I can change the defaults, with the ~3 second write time.

I would strongly suspect that you have to go through the full ECM update sequence to change anything in the vehicle.

 

[pcarlson]

2000BlackCloud,



Fuel plus Air will equal power. Like you said as long as your turbo can supply the air needed for the extra fuel you'll add power. If she smokes like a coal fire than too much fuel and not enough air. Now if your running bigger injectors this would be something to look at as it could add to much fuel and smoke. Duration really helps stock and mild injectors add power without having to buy bigger sticks to get the power.

 

[aircop]

Duration adjust how long the metering valve in the vp stays open. (more or less fuel).

 

[johncameron]

Duration adjust how long the metering valve in the vp stays open. (more or less fuel).

I'm guessing that is the valve a wire tap box connects to?

 

[darkhorse]

I'm guessing that is the valve a wire tap box connects to?

Yes, John, you've got that right.

 

[NoSeeUm]

I don't think so. I was tinkering in front of my computer with the Smarty interface while the Smarty hooked up to a USB port. I can change the defaults, with the ~3 second write time.



I would strongly suspect that you have to go through the full ECM update sequence to change anything in the vehicle.

I am going to agree with Blackcloud, but alas I am not completely sure. Last night I changed TM from 3 to 6 by "Adjust Options" only. The update took about 3 seconds and I could definately feel a difference in how the engine performed.



I am just not sure exactly what TM does though. It did not seem to make any more smoke, but the throttle response was just stronger especially on the low end.



Jim

 

[johncameron]

I am just not sure exactly what TM does though. It did not seem to make any more smoke, but the throttle response was just stronger especially on the low end. Jim

From what I understand, TQ management is the ammount of power the engine is allowed to make at lower RPM. Torque is what slips clutches and auto trannys. Lets say setting #2 allows 600TQ at 1500rpm and setting #6 allows 750TQ at 1500.



Once you get to higher RPM there is no TQ management.



On the origional smarty SW's level 3 would only allow 25LBS of boost at low RPM on my truck. If I switched to SW9 I could easily build 32LBS of boost at the same RPM.

 

[NoSeeUm]

OK thanks John.



With that tidbit of info I am guessing that duration is what helps at the upper rpm's or does duration pretty much help out all through the rpm band in a more linear step change fashion?



My plan is to basically adjust one parameter at a time and figure out how exactly it effects performance. And especially, what effect it as on smoke.



Jim

 

[telliott]

does anyone know if a tapped comp effects duration? If I crank up duration on the smarty, is it going to be fighting with the comp?



Also, I haven't played with this at all, but can i have no timing on sw#9 so i could still use the comp with it? I know the comp adds timing and so does the odd # sw's so i have never used the odd #'s. But if i could turn timing off on those settings maybe i could stack them?



One more... . Do the SW numbers even matter anymore? it seems that the sw's were maybe just different combinations of the TM, Duration, e. t. c. So it seems to me that now since those can all be adjusted you could load say sw 4, change the settings and achieve the same thing as say sw 8. Not sure about this, just thinking out loud.

 

[telliott]

a couple results: First digit is TQ, second is Timing, 3rd is duration.



On SW8, 6,3,5. My favorite so far, seems to pull harder than before, does however smoke A LOT!



Also tried SW9 6,1,5. still pretty snappy, but didn't seem to run quite as hard as the previous.



-both times i had comp on 5x5 as well. The first time when i was on sw8, 6,3,5, i didn't really mean to have the smarty timing on 3 because of the timing the comp adds, i did that on accident. However it ran great and i didn't have any timing rattle. Is it risky to run it like this? it seems the timing of both the comp and smarty could be hard on things but it ran awesome on my short little test run.

 

[darkhorse]

does anyone know if a tapped comp effects duration?



That is exactly what it does. I'm as confused as everybody else on the rest of the details.

 

[dknoch]

What is the order for the timing? 1 is stock and 4 is the most, but is 2 more advanced than 3 or 3 more than 2. On Mads site, for the 3rd generations, 2 is more advanced than 3. Anybody know if that is the same for the 2nd gen trucks? Also, I would still love to have a list of the previous software broken down into what the defult values are and I am curious what we are still changing with the software settings. Love the REVO, thanks Bob!

 

[NoSeeUm]

I am going to agree with Blackcloud, but alas I am not completely sure. Last night I changed TM from 3 to 6 by "Adjust Options" only. The update took about 3 seconds and I could definately feel a difference in how the engine performed.

Jim

Way back when..... When I was tuning the ABS for tire size and using my GPS. I found out that I did not have to shut the engine down to make that adjustment with the Smarty.



Last night I decided to experiment a little. With the engine still running I changed from D6 to D2 and also changed T2 to T5. I did this change with the engine still running and it seemed to work fine. Basically no different than having the engine off and the key on.



Some one else care to try and back me up on this experiment?



Jim

 

[pcarlson]

Still Looking

Torque Management



# 0 – Default (What is the default value for each software setting)



SW# 1 = ? (1-6)

SW# 2 = ? (1-6)

SW# 3 = ? (1-6)

SW# 4 = ? (1-6)

SW# 5 = ? (1-6)

SW# 6 = ? (1-6)

SW# 7 = ? (1-6)

SW# 8 = ? (1-6)

SW# 9 = ? (1-6)



# 1 - Stock

# 2 - Mild

# 3

# 4 Moderate

# 5

# 6 - Wild ( aftermarket clutch / AT Transmission recommended )





Injection Timing



# 0 – Default (What is the default value for each software setting)



SW# 1 = ? (1-4)

SW# 2 = ? (1-4)

SW# 3 = ? (1-4)

SW# 4 = ? (1-4)

SW# 5 = ? (1-4)

SW# 6 = ? (1-4)

SW# 7 = ? (1-4)

SW# 8 = ? (1-4)

SW# 9 = ? (1-4)



# 1 - Stock

# 2 - for stock injectors

# 3 - for aftermarket Injectors

# 4 - for fuel economy



Injection duration



# 0 – Default (What is the default value for each software setting)



SW# 1 = ? (1-5)

SW# 2 = ? (1-5)

SW# 3 = ? (1-5)

SW# 4 = ? (1-5)

SW# 5 = ? (1-5)

SW# 6 = ? (1-5)

SW# 7 = ? (1-5)

SW# 8 = ? (1-5)

SW# 9 = ? (1-5)



# 1 - Stock

# 2 - Mild

# 3

# 4

# 5 - Long

 

[darkhorse]

I've been running CaTCHER #9 almost exclusively since the summer of "05 when I sent my ECM to Italy to have it flashed as part of the firs commercial offering. I loved it then & still do. Now I've decided to soften the throttle & run on #5 long enough to get used to extra pedal; movement. I've still got all the adjustments turned up full. The first thing I noticed with the REVO program is that it's easier to keep from smoking inadvertently. I rarely use heavy throttle but this morning I decided to try a bit on a deserted county road. With my APB turned up about 9/10ths. I did see smoke when the APB started fueling. It wasn't totally black but a dark gray that I could see through in the mirror. I don't know if it would rev to 4k as I stopped at a couple of ticks past 3500 because it was still rising fast & I was running out of road. I don't know what boost & egt were.