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SMOG CHECK - Coming to California January 1, 2010; Coming to Your State Soon?

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To the point: Click this link and check out the Front Page News story(ies) where we are tracking the introduction of the 2025 Ram HD trucks.

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FWIW! Pay Attention at the Diesel Pumps!!!

The CARB Sticker is intended for aftermarket parts that have been developed for on road vehicles in CA. The sticker indicates to the Police or Smog checker that the part has been tested and meets the Air Resources Board's requirements.



As for your Jeep, I am assuming that any aftermarket parts would require a CARB Sticker, but the Jeep itself would be only required to meet Federal Emissions levels because it was not originally a CA vehicle.
 
Landcruiser diesel.

There's a Landcruiser 2-door diesel in the beach area here that has Ca plates. It's the same vehicle sold worldwide except here as usual. I don't know how he got it through Ca's regulations,but the guy's got a one of a kind gem of a truck. What's going to happen to him now? I'm hoping to catch him out of the water and ask some questions.
 
I had a Diesel Suburban. It was a 1997 and was not available in CA when new, I bought it with 80,000 miles and it was easily registered in CA. Just an example of another lame attempt by CARB to prevent California from having a choice. As for emissions, it will be like gas vehicles that were not originally sold in CA, they have to comply with the Federal Standard.
 
Thanks, Folks..that IS very helpful.

Both my Ram and my Liberty CRD are bone-stock. The Ram was bought in CA, the Liberty by me in TX, and I did it all the right way. I love both vehicles, plan to have them for a LONG time (my Ram only has 205k, the Liberty has 67k now), and they run well, are properly maintained, and use no oil between service intervals. I don't suspect an inframe on my Ram until 350-400k, baring anything catastrophic, and we'll see on the Liberty. It's a very tried and true engine in Europe, and I suspect it will do well here. We don't baby our trucks, but we maintain them extremely well, as I suspect most of you do. Thanks Surfbeetle and others. (I still have an '83 Suburban 6. 2L and an '84 Jimmy 6. 2L w/Banks Turbo in mothballs, as well as an '82 Vanagon GL 5-sp. Diesel).

AEdelheit, what's your callsign? If you don't want to say so here, you can catch me offboard.

Regcabguy- I'l love to see that LC... Major cool!



This is a great group, a super magazine & resource, and I hope to be affiliated for a long time.



Best of the holidays to all.



Cheers,

Deanna :cool:;)



'95 Ram 2500 Cummins TD 5-sp. manual 4x2 reg. cab, '05 Jeep Liberty CRD Sport 4x4 5-sp. auto.
 
I had a Diesel Suburban. It was a 1997 and was not available in CA when new, I bought it with 80,000 miles and it was easily registered in CA. Just an example of another lame attempt by CARB to prevent California from having a choice. As for emissions, it will be like gas vehicles that were not originally sold in CA, they have to comply with the Federal Standard.
This one was never legally sold in the US. It was imported,perhaps from Canada. Anyway,the guy scored a super truck.
 
ok, so here we are after the new year and waiting with baited breath for the axe(s) to fall on us diesel owners. has ANYONE got a notice in their registration for 2010 to do smog????? no bs about what you heard from the guy down the street who heard from his sisters boyfriend that had a friend who's dad said his mother heard... ... hard facts only. when is it due, where are you going, what happened when you got it done? passed/failed? what really happened? did you get a notice for registration for 2010 and no notice for smog.
 
Well, hmmmm. At the risk of taking this further into the political zone, I'll dive in again. I left California in the Eighties, before it became fashionable to do so. I left for a better job, and partly because my wife had been held up at gunpoint in one of the better parts of our then home town and in part because my line of work had made me a target for wholesalers providing stock for undocumented pharmacists.

I was a member of a car pool in California in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Two days before the Iranians stormed the US Embassy in Tehran, I bought a new Mazda GLC. (That was a great car, and I drove it for 16 years. ) While the car still had its temporary license plate, my wife hadn't gotten around to scraping off the assembly line smog test sticker from the passenger window. My colleague was reading the morning newspaper as I drove. As he read the prior day's air pollution report, he noted that the air coming out the tailpipe of my new car was cleaner than the air it was sucking in, at least for the city we worked in. Four years later, California finally got around to biennial testing for that kind of car. (Not that there were a lot of mods for a 1400 cc Mazda 4 cylinder!)

I ended up in a place with a rigid smog urban inspection system that really works. It's fast and fair, so long as the modifications to our vehicles aren't extreme. I've had to test my turbodiesel every year since I bought it. I don't view this is as an imposition on my life. Maybe it's just me.

I also used to drive a 1983 Jeep Wagoneer LTD, which became known as a Grand Wagoneer the following year. I towed a 19 foot travel trailer with it, and it was a nightmare. So in 1994, I replaced the 2 barrel carburetor with an OEM 4 barrel Motorcraft 4350 carburetor and AMC intake from a 1977 California Matador. (This back-usage of equipment is widely considered to be wrong. ) Then I cut off the OEM bead style catalytic converter (autocat) and replaced it with a much smaller $69 updated honeycomb autocat. Then I cut off the OEM muffler and replaced it with a so-called turbo muffler. It put out way more felt power and got better mileage if I could just keep my foot out of the immense secondary venturis. (But it was sooo much fun. )

With trepidation, I took it in for its first annual smog inspection. It was an IM-240 inspection, which required driving it on a dyno tester. I finished the test, and the technician had a very bewildered look on his face as he told me to drive forward and just wait. He summoned a supervisor over. He and the supervisor looked at my door sticker, and the VIN on the dashboard. They did this three times. Then the supervisor went and got another supervisor, and they repeated that inspection, looked under the hood again, and again checked the underside with the mirror on wheels. Finally, the tech and the first supervisor walked back to me, and the supervisor asked, "This is a 1983, right?" "Yes," I replied. "I don't know how you did it, but your Jeep meets the 1993 requirements. "

Two years later, I traded it for my truck. Which at least easily meets 1996 requirements, and I spend less than two hours a year doing it.

Oh, yeah, and one of my worst nightmares is to be transferred back to California. But the nightmare is for reasons other than smog tests. And that discussion truly belongs in the Political section.
 
I heard on the Bay Area Channel 2 news at 10:00 last night (Sat 1-9) that about 200 truck drivers are losing their jobs because they can not afford the $20000-$30000 to install what I guess is DPF filters on their semi's. This is in Oakland at the docks. Now isn't that really great. All the more reason not to go into CA.
 
I heard on the Bay Area Channel 2 news at 10:00 last night (Sat 1-9) that about 200 truck drivers are losing their jobs because they can not afford the $20000-$30000 to install what I guess is DPF filters on their semi's. This is in Oakland at the docks. Now isn't that really great. All the more reason not to go into CA.



Now that's a different matter altogether. Failure to recognize older units in use until their ultimate and predictable demise is unfortunately what I have come to expect with California. And coming soon to the EPA nationwide, no doubt.
 
Now that's a different matter altogether. Failure to recognize older units in use until their ultimate and predictable demise is unfortunately what I have come to expect with California. And coming soon to the EPA nationwide, no doubt.
Exactly my sentiments. Let 'em die a natural death. It's another move to eliminate the independent trucker in favor of the big companies who will just add on yet another surcharge. BTW Matt. I'm sixty years old and a native San Diegan. Air quality is better now than when I was a teenager despite many more vehicles. We can thank mandated emission controls for that.
 
the purpose of this thread was started as information on upcoming checks on our trucks. robin started this thread to give out information that many didn't know about on upcoming checks here in california. as noted thru out this thread is that there are many other states that have these checks already in place, many for years. what other states are currently doing gives us here some clue as to what we might expect. it would be great if that information is continued without the fluff. i'm still waiting for someone that has received notice and when they go what happened.
 
Just had mine done here in NY, they check exhaust emissions and plug in and bring rpm up and check number of things, total and difference across rpm range etc. my 06 is stock and had very low numbers luckily.
 
I'M NOT HAPPY AT ALL ABOUT THIS.

I just purchased a Banks intercooler and installed it this last year and I also have a Edge attitude and box on my 2004. 5 3500 which I bought from a TDR person in Washington a few years back. When I bought the truck it allready had a aftermarket AFE air intake installed and a resonater and aftermarket 4" exhaust.

I called both EDGE and BANKS today (1/21/10) and was told that they don't have the CARB sticker nor are they going to have one in the future as of yet and that it would be in my best interest to remove the aftermarket parts. I can remove the EDGE, and BANKS intercooler since I still have my stock intercooler in storage along with my stock air intake but I have desposed of my exhaust components and that is going to cost me.

I hope as was mentioned before in this thread that my 3500 will only be inspected to federal standards and not california since it is a out of state truck.
 
None of us are.



I don't mind having to smog check. But the way the stae has introduced this to us is what TICKS me off.



Most diesel owners in Ca won't even know that have to smog untill they renew their tags.
 
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