Attention: TDR Forum Junkies 
Interesting so what you are saying is when you go into be tested there is limits you must test to pass emissions. Now if I put on a device that improves my emissions but has no CARB number I fail which improves your clean air and breath ability. If the device I add to improve performance and has no CARB number but still passes I fail as well. Sorry don't see the logic!!!! I am not talking about nor did I say anything about removal or modification of Federal mandated emission devices. Having said that though the same logic should apply though. The big difference is the Federal government is not getting any monetary gain. Where as CARB members get paid a salary and have job security even if they are not qualified or have any expertise in this area. Yes I have read about some of the board members as others have. It also bothers me some that for what ever reason some in California are arrogant enough to believe they not only knows what is best for California but all other States and the world if you ask them. Some where i missed something in school about the universe revolving around California.
To stringent and over jealous requirements are driving business from your state resulting in loss in taxes not helping but making your budget woes worse(its happening all over to some extent but worse in California). Note I did not say reasonable requirements here. Your cost of living is going up even faster now as modification of commercial vehicles cost are being included in raising product cost including groceries, etc.
What I said was it should not matter what you bolt on for what ever reason should not automatically fail the test results should. If the emission level you are tested to is not good enough make it more stringent. What you bolt on and if it has a CARB number makes absolutely no sense. I have a feeling though if your truck throws a code during testing that has absolutely nothing to do with emissions levels and you would have passed the test you will not be a happy camper. I could be wrong you might enjoy the process to repeat emissions testing multiple times and the expense of fixing items not remotely emissions related to pass.
Now what I think your complaining about is people that disconnect and reconnect after testing. What if the devices does not cause you to test beyond limits then the question is mute you would know that if allowed to keep them on. I have not heard about this in awhile but there used to be a portable device that could check your emissions as you drive by. Perhaps you would advocate random road side testing of ALL vehicles(don't be discriminatory you have seen none diesel vehicles needing help) as they do now with scales for commercial trucks and safety inspections. That would resolve your concerns; have to increase your taxes a little more and some inconvenience to you on occasion to be randomly tested. So you should be all for this and to your surprise it would not bother me either if I am traveling in California and they test me. Of course it is my right not to cross the border into California and spend any money to aide in your economy as well. I only go there now because my Dad and Mom lives there he being 90 with only 20% use of his heart and Mom 84 otherwise would not bother me if you put up the equivalent of the Berlin Wall. I can get to all other States without going through California.
Ok off the soap box and will not respond further on this subject. I live in Arizona and while we have emissions which as yet is not anywhere near like California I really don't have a dog in this fight. :-laf
Mac
How do you really feel?????
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