Speculation: What would happen to the TDR if...

[klenger]

... Dodge started putting MB diesel engines in the RAM's and Ford switched to the Cummins.



IOW, is the TDR a Dodge site or a Cummins site? :--)

 

[Thomas]

Established in 1993, the Turbo Diesel Register is your number one

resource for Dodge/Cummins Turbo Diesel truck information!

 

[RustyJC]

So I guess that means that, if there were no longer a Dodge/Cummins truck, it would shut down?



Rusty

 

[Thomas]

I don't know why it would shut down. The way I read it is that anyone with the Dodge/Cummins Turbo Diesel combination is welcome and could continue the website.

 

[y-knot]

I think it would be the best thing that ever happened to the site. They would experience a membership growth like never before, you would have the old group that had the Dodge/Cummins combo, the ones that helped start the whole thing. Then you would have two new groups of members, the Dodge/MB group and the Ford/Cummins group (gee that sounds good,Ford/Cummins). Ford sells more trucks then anyone, and with the Cummins available in the super duty models, it would skyrocket into pick-up heaven. I think they would out sell the other two combined, and it might even knock Chevrolet out of the diesel market. The Dodge/MB group would be a new group with a mix of the old Dodge/Cummins group, they would pioneer a new dawn in the Dodge history books much like they did with the Dodge Ram trucks of old, back in 1994.

As far as the web site goes, it would grow to proportions UN-imagined, if they were quick to act and could re-tool fast enough. Think about it, it would be the equivalent of the TDR as we know it today, with the membership of the Diesel Truck Resource times 10 added. No longer would their be this Ford vs Dodge debate, the two would join to make a large and happy family. The new debate would be Cummins vs MB, and maybe even this transmission vs the other transmission, who knows? I would like to see it happen, the web site would be fun. Unfortunately Dodge might loose out some, it depends on how fast they could make the transition. If they had a tried and tested combination from MB, one that would fill the void and even take the product line to a new level, they would fair very well. But if they launched a new product line and had any where near the start up problems the 6. 0L from Ford had, then I think the Dodge combo would fail and Dodge would suffer a blow too sever to continue. I hope it does not come to that, I like both brands and feel they both offer something worth having. Regardless of what happens, I can not see anything but good for the TDR site and publication, they have the ability to please both sides, and would offer the aftermarket a wonderful place to do business.

 

[SEmerson]

If Dodge uses MB and Ford picks up Cummins in light duty. Dodge would lose bad. Ford woud surely take over. That would fix all the small back seat prolems right away. I would stay with cummins where ever they go.

 

[Sojourner]

In the highly unlikely event that would happen, I'm sure the site would continue and evolve because of the high number of very loyal and knowledgeable Dodge CTD owners who intend to stay right where they are. There are diehards who would never give up their Ram CTDs. I assert 'highly unlikely' because the decision-makers in DC would have to lose their collective mind to go with a MB diesel when they have a sure-fire winner with the CTD, marketshare-wise. In some parts of the country, nearly ALL the pickups you see on the road that are actually WORK trucks are Dodge CTDs. I seriously doubt that is going to happen anytime soon. Why gamble just for the sake of using a MB diesel engine which is such a huge unknown to the portion of the buying public that loyally uses the Cummins and knows well the reputation of the Cummins?



Does anyone remember the thrust MB made into the truck market with their medium duty line of diesel trucks years ago??? Do you see any of THOSE MB diesel trucks still on the road??? No, you don't.



I could see where MAYBE, just possibly DC would 'test the waters' by sticking their toe in with an 'option' of a MB diesel powered Ram just to see how it is received, all the while continuing to sell the CTD left and right. Don't hold your breath for a MB diesel in a HD Ram.



DC isn't going to let go of the goose that lays the golden egg, and Ferd is in too deep with International/Navistar - for now. JMO

 

[Blakers]

Dodge would lose bad. Ford woud surely take over. That would fix all the small back seat prolems right away. I would stay with cummins where ever they go.

Especially with Ford's new coil springs. The two reasons I went to Dodge in the first place was the Cummins and coil springs for a good ride.



Blake

 

[Royk]

Some food for thought...

A few years ago I read that there are more MB million+ mile diesel passenger vehicles on the road than any other make (diesel and gas) in the world.



Roy

 

[Sojourner]

A few years ago I read that there are more MB million+ mile diesel passenger vehicles on the road than any other make (diesel and gas) in the world.

While that is certainly true about cars, Damlier Benz's medium duty diesel truck line in the US of A was a dismal failure. And a whole lot of people remember that. I can still remember that 'schook-schook-schook-schook' sound the MB diesel trucks made.

 

[FATCAT]

I don't know about the HD Line, but I sure would like to see the new 5 cyl. MB used in the Sprinter in a Dakota truck. That would be a real winner in my opinion.

 

[ndurbin]

If Dodge did change to a MB diesel, I think it would be smart to offer a choice b/w the two instead of just one. Atleast until one proves to be superior to the other.



Nathan

 

[Phrogger57]

mixed bag

I would like to see the TDR open up a little. I am buying a M-2 freightliner with the MB-926 engine in it for my business, and unfortunately will probably have to sell my dependable '03. By the same token, I have plans on the drawing board to install an ISB in my '58 Willys FC-170. I love the combination of Dodge/CTD, but until/Unless they wise up and offer a 4500/5500/6500 size vehicle I'm stuck with going elsewhere to get the vehicle I need -Eric

 

[Marco]

Well...



You guys better wake up.

The MB engines from passenger cars to HD, are the best availabel.



Take a trip over to Europe, come and see it with your eyes!

MB has about 50% of the 18 wheeler market here... .



From an European point of view, I would have to ask: WHO is Cummins?



Nough said?



Marco