Stopping surface rust on bottom of truck? HOW???

[XcumminsX]

Hey guys. I really hate when i look at my truck and see that surface rust anywhere on the bottom i cant stand it. Since my truck is pretty new can i just spray that rust stop (black) on it all? will it stop that rust from continuing? i pretty much lost my old ford monster truck due to rust i dont want this truck to follow in its foot steps. What do you guys think? i already sprayed my driveshaft with the rust stop and looks much better than the rust. Is this the best thing to do?

 

[jgillott]

Take the thing to Ziebart. I've had them do my last 2 new vehicles and I have been very satisfied. They do an annual check up for around $40. They completely clean the undercarriage and then respray everything. It looks new when it comes back. Plus, with their undercoating, a good pressure washer will clean it up well. On my truck and my jeep, they covered everything except the transmission, t-case, and drive shafts. Everything else including the axle housings are taken care of.



Justin

 

[XcumminsX]

Do you know if there are ziebhart dealers in illinois?

 

[jgillott]

I think that you can do a search on their site. I've had mine done within a few weeks of purchase and they did their "new vehicle rust protection". I think that it ran about $300 initially, and as I said, $40 for the annual inspection.



Justin

 

[trucknut]

Rust Protection in a can---Fluid Film

"Fluid Film" is a rust protection, it is used as a spray-on for rust protection (also lubricates). It works as a loosen all,spray lube, when sprayed on rust you can see it working.

It can be bought in a spray can or a five gallon pail. It does not hurt paint, not poison,environmentlly friendly. Made by Northland.

It is an oily product (sure eats rust) but won't give you hard protection to prevent rock chips.



Seems like I'am going on and on about this product, just impressed with it, thats all.

 

[Sled Puller]

POR-15. Lots of work, but is supposedly permanate.

 

[silverram03]

You may also try the Eastwood company. I used to have one of thier catalogs and remember seeing a Red and Black rust sealer. You might just try thier website.

 

[Torque King Jay]

Stop Rust in it's tracks

Rust Bullet... Only problem is that it comes in only one color grey, but after you apply it you can top coat it with what ever color paint you want.



http://www.rust-bullet.com/



Here are some pictures after application



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=rust+bullet+pictures



Jay

 

[HoleshotHolset]

If you want to go about it the old fashioned way... .



Folks used to 'oil' their trucks - the oil most commonly used is ATF (non-synthetic... )... and some folks combine ATF with hydraulic oil to coat the underside.



Before the enviro-idiots came to town - firetrucks and normal personal vehicles could be oiled. Now they'll string you up by your short hairs if they catch you dripping a bit of oil here and there.



Oiling did wonders to stop rust - but it did make working on your truck a very greasy experience. We took the trucks to a place in southern NH last year... and again this year. The guy is dressed in Tyvek from head to toe and he goes to town spraying/injecting his oil mixture EVERYWHERE under the truck. It drips for about a week afterward - so don't park on any asphalt you don't want ruined.



I've seen both sides of what can happen if you Ziebart your vehicle... some are fine for life... others rust out immediately.



I swear Fords are made out of old rusty soup cans... . I've changed more parts due to rust alone than I care to admit.



Matt

 

[SMorneau]

forget Ziebart! I have been ripped off by them for the last time. Buy some Amsoil metal protectant or other product that that is oily and doesn't build up a thick coat of asphalt-like stuff and go at it yourself.

 

[diesel DOG]

The best thing is Por15.com. I have used it for a while. Prep is two passes with a wire brush for anything really loose. I mean two passes. You can spray with metal ready primer they sell and then paint. It is tough, flexible, and available in many colors. They make a chassis coat. My friend restores cars and did his battery box. He had a tiny run so went to sand blasted in his shop. He said it was real tough to get off. When I got my truck new I went underneath and saw tons not painted . I am fanatical about rust. I did the truck springs drive shaft and everything else right over the rust. Looks great after 45,000. It is one great product. For 45 bucks a qt. it should be. One qt. goes a long way and you can put one coat. i did under the rear fender on the dually and it's hanging tough. Real difficult to chip. Check out the website. This stuff works! I did my exhaust manifold a month ago and it's god too. Do not let it dry on you. It will NOT come off. I had to sand black speckels off my face. :--) I painted some on my GMC 7000 1984 where the was rust by the cab 4 years ago with no prep and nothing has rusted.

 

[abranz]

I've tried everything from undercoat to oil to paint. By far the best product I've used is POR-15. It doesn't seem to chip off and works well. Very messy to apply but really anything you spray or paint on the bottom of your truck will be.

Tony in ID

 

[Forrest Nearing]

my '97 blows enough oil vapor out of the blow-by tube that after a long trip on the highway under steady boost, the underside of the truck is COATED in oil... definately dirty, but there's no rust either! LOL!

 

[Josparkz]

Diesel eats it

My undercoating, that is.

Had a little malfunction in my auxiliary fuel tank, causing diesel to overflow the main fuel tank, causing all the undercoating it touched to turn to a mess. Now I need to get all the melted crap off of it. Yuck. :--)

 

[curatchko]

I'll second the POR15.



This stuff has been out for about the last 15 years that I know of, and it perminantly seals rust. It's a paint that WILL ONLY adhere to rust.



You cannot paint it on painted surfaces though. It will peal off. Has to go on rust. It cures with MOISTURE... which is always present with rust. It's cool stuff... . not simply a paint.



I painted all the rusty parts on my 99 like the driveshafts, axle housings etc... . truck looked like new the whole time I had it underneath.



Just don't paint over painted surfaces.

 

[Matt S]

Here is a negative on POR-15

I put this stuff on my 90 and I don't feel it is worth the money. I used the prep stuff and it still went on very hard. I would consider it ok if had not come off in sheets afterward. Leaving areas unexposed and some pockets to hold moisture. I see all the people who stand by this product must have had a very different experience than I did.

 

[Blakers]

In late summer, when your truck is really nice and dry and it's warm out, spray everything under the truck with oil - non-detergent or hydraulic oil works best. Get it inside the doors and tailgate and everywhere else moisture can get. If you do it every year your truck will last for years and years. In the spring, just wash it really well and pressure wash the bottom if you wish and it will be nice and clean.



There are several places around here that do this for $40 - $50. One place in NE Ohio is a transmission rebuilder and they use their used ATF like this.



I like to run up and down a dusty dirt road right after getting it oiled. The dust helps the oil stay on better.



Undercoating, like Zeibart, is good for a few years, but dries out over time, trapping moisture, making it worse than nothing. If you do have that done, spray your truck's bottom with diesel fuel every few years to keep the undercoating soft and pliable. Just use a pump up fruit sprayer for that.

 

[ab7fh]

Funny you should mention that. I have tons of surface rust under there and I live in Phoenix! My '93 Explorer which I have owned since new has much less.



Go figure. Dodge never did do great with paint... I guess they do even worse with the paint most people don't usually see.

 

[nickleinonen]

krown rust control is what i recommend. had my truck sprayed 5 days after picking it up [i couldn't watch them drill the holes though ] and i will get it sprayed every year.

rust check is very similar in formula to the krown rust control products. both work well, i prefer the krown myself...



and it makes a big difference who applies it. if it don't drip, it ain't worth I TRIED TO BY-PASS THE CUSSING FILTER... mine dripped for a little over a week

 

[Forrest Nearing]

if you've already got rust, POR-15 is the way to go...



P O R = Paint Over Rust



it catalyzes with the stuff and is damn near bulletproof when it cures!



Forrest