Got it installed. The parts guy suggested that I just ask one of the techs to pop the old one off and pop the new one on for me. Did that. That option works great. :-laf No charge. And he didnt have to remove the console. He just removed the overhead lamp lenses and was able to reach what he needed to from there. BTW, there has been a lot of gnawing and gnashing of teeth regarding dodge dealers over the years. And I am one who has gnawed and gnashed. I dealt with 4 other dodge dealers in the seattle area, and each one was crooked at one point or another and/or incompetent. But the one Ive been going to for the last couple of year is by far the best dealer Ive ever dealt with, for any car. Whether it be dodge, chev, gmc, toyota, datsun, etc.