Test drove 2008 F-450

[CUMMINZ]

Test drove a new F-450 with pickup bed with auto and 4. 88s today. Looked it over good. This is one bad truck. Suspension front and back is totally bad. Rear end and springs are super bad. Turned 2500rpms at 70mph.

 

[16919]

Bad as in tough or bad as in crappy... ... ?

 

[CUMMINZ]

Bad as super tough.

 

[16919]

I cant really argue in saying that super duties are nice trucks, but their engines make better paper weights than power plants!

 

[CUMMINZ]

I can't argue with you. It was very quite and very responsive. Under the hood was tight. Maybe this new motor has been done right this time.

 

[plongson]

I can't argue with you. It was very quite and very responsive. Under the hood was tight. Maybe this new motor has been done right this time.

My hell, with 4. 88's I would hope it is responsive. It probably was flat out in about 100 yards too...

 

[CUMMINZ]

You can't get something for nothing. With a GCVW of 33,000#s it is going to take a pretty good truck. I think the new DC 5500 with 4. 10s will have only 25-26k GCVW.

 

[Grizzly]

I can't argue with you. It was very quite and very responsive. Under the hood was tight. Maybe this new motor has been done right this time.

I seriously doubt that. It's still a powerjoke.

 

[MRaynor]

I know, nothing to admit, but I have been reading over on a Powerstroke site and there is a thread about one dealership that has sold 8 and 5 are back in the shop with catastrophic engine failure. That is not a good sign.

 

[MRaynor]

I know, nothing to admit, but I have been reading over on a Powerstroke site and there is a thread about one dealership that has sold 8 and 5 are back in the shop with catastrophic engine failure. That is not a good sign.

I went back and reread, and I need to correct my numbers. 5 were sold and 3 are back in the shop. Sorry.



Mike

 

[JasonCzerak]

I went back and reread, and I need to correct my numbers. 5 were sold and 3 are back in the shop. Sorry.



Mike

link us! please!

 

[Froadin]

While I am glad that DC FINALLY got around to the 4500/5500 vehicles, they don't seem to be a strong competitor.
Maybe they have a specific market that I don't see. They always market to someone, but I just wonder who they are.

Can't you get the Cat and Cummins in the F450? Or is that only the F550 and up that you can do that?

 

[PKnoerzer]

The Cats and Cummins are only available in the F650's and F750 - different animal.

 

[CUMMINZ]

I drove Fords for 10 years before I purchased my first DC. I do like the new 450. They have done a great job on the running gear. My 06' now is as strong as this new 450. I will still wait to look at a 4500/5500 with dually bed before I buy again. :-laf

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

I think the new DC 5500 with 4. 10s will have only 25-26k GCVW.

FYI - you can't get 4. 10's in the 5500. It will come with 4. 44's with manual transmissions and 4. 88's with auto's. It has a 26k GCVWR as well (same as the 4500) - you can read all about the 4500 and 5500 with detailed specs here: https://www.turbodieselregister.com/07chicagoprelease/

 

[CUMMINZ]

The new Ford brochure in my hand rates the F450 with auto and 4. 88s as follows:



4. 88=33,000#s GCVW

5th. wheel towing of 24,500#s. with 4. 88s with 4x2 truck

4x4 is 24,000#s.



New 5500 GCVW is 26,000#s.

 

[JasonCzerak]

With the ford numbers so hi, and hte 4500 and 5500 with the same GCVW.



That's the point?



Why are they not matching or exceeding?

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

Because as I said in my article they are not targeting the personal RV towing market. Their target market is the in the commerical service body industry.

 

[JasonCzerak]

Because as I said in my article they are not targeting the personal RV towing market. Their target market is the in the commerical service body industry.

Ahh, well that would make sense.



Tho, how much more difficult would it have been to get it to tow a few more pounds as well?

 

[CUMMINZ]

Hey Steve,



That is crap. 95% of RVers in this country really do not need a lot of GVRW. Most of the DOT in this country could care less. I can pass a weigh station in NC or 95% of other states and DOT could care less.



The buyers of these trucks for commercial are the guys that can get fined out of the wazoo for exceeding their GVW/GCVW. Buyers of commercial 5500s want to be able to pull 25-40k legal. The stiffs on this board and others like it that are daily pulling 30-40k for a living for the most part are pretty quiet. They could care less about a service bed but most likely would or do have a flat bed with a goose neck trailer.