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The Trip West (and a Thank-You! to the TDR Group)

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My wife mentioned she wanted a “camper” about three years ago. So, we looked and found a used 1995 Jayco Eagle bunkhouse model –as it turns out, it was a very nice camper and I really enjoyed it. We needed a truck to pull it with, and after some internet searching and a couple of test drives, settled on a 2012 Ram 2500. I was very pleased with how the truck drove, and I figured you couldn’t go wrong with a Cummins. So, I bought a new truck at the beginning of March, 2013.

Some more internet searching landed me at the TDR. I saw the CMEP promotion for June of 2013 and my older son (14 years old at the time) said he would like to go. So, I joined the TDR, started reading the magazine and forum, and he and I went to CMEP in Columbus, Indiana in 2013.

We got another travel trailer – it was clear my sons would soon be longer than the bunk beds in the one we had, despite how much I liked it – and I set everything up in the new trailer based upon what I had learned here. Last summer (in 2014), we decided on a trip west; I asked and received many good suggestions from the folks here on the forum.

Being the CDO type (that is Compulsive Disorder: Obsessive, which is nothing more than your normal obsessive compulsive disorder, but with the acronym in the proper alphabetical order, as it should be! :D) I very carefully planned the trip and route, again with good suggestions from folks here on the forum.

The trip is 52 days in length. There are 12 travel days of between 300 miles and 350 miles each day. Roughly 8 days are devoted to the Badlands and Black Hills areas of South Dakota, roughly 18 days are devoted to the Yellowstone area, and roughly 14 days are devoted to the Grand Teton area. While travel has been meticulously planned, the time spent at each area is fairly unscheduled. The only planning done outside of travel was to try to make a list of things to be sure to experience. The list is long, and I am certain only a small portion of the list will be accomplished.

My wife and older son (16 years old now) are doing the entire trip. I will be at work except for a two week period during which I, my younger son (14 years old), and my step-father will be joining the rest of the family by plane in Wyoming. We spent quite a few evenings this past winter researching routing, learning and practicing first-aid, and discussing, planning, and rehearsing safety on the road and on the trail.

We spent quite a few Saturday and Sunday afternoons in practice driving sessions. This is one thing I would not do again – I should have found someone else to work with my wife on the driving – when all is said and done, I think my wife is doing well, but it was not the right way to go about it. She continues to find backing up challenging – so do I – but I figure if you wait until you are perfect at something then you will probably never do more than that one thing - do some learning by doing :rolleyes:.

I want to extend a big “thank you” to the many folks here on the forum and at the TDR. I have learned a lot about my truck, RVs, and towing from the TDR magazine and especially from helpful folks here on the forum. I appreciate the help and suggestions I received while planning this trip. If you suggested we do something on this trip and we end up not doing so, please do not be offended – there is so much I think I could do this trip ten times and not get everything in.

DAY 1

The trip began today – not much to say, as it is a travel day. I will update with the results of this first day of travel tomorrow. Here are pictures of our rig, my wife, and my older son, ready to go.

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Sounds like you have a great trip
Be sure to stop and smell the flowers along the way
and if you need help TDR members are willing to help
 
Have a fun, safe trip. I'll be curious when you finish if you actually spent the alloted amount of time in each location. I couldn't find enough to do to spend as many days as you indicated in Yellowstone/Grand Teton.
 
KHellewell and wyosteve, thanks for the well wishes.

wyosteve, I'll make a brief post of each day so we can see how it pans out. I like to see things by walking. I have come to do about ten miles a day, which to me is far enough to see something and slow enough to take time to enjoy what I am looking at. So, it takes me a long time to see anything. Everyone has a different approach.

Here is how Day 1 went:

Day 1 was a travel day from Erie, PA and heading west out of Pennsylvania, across Ohio, and into Indiana. This was all interstate driving. My wife said that she encountered several sections of road work requiring slowing down and speeding up as well as fairly persistent wind during the day and two thunderstorms. Fuel mileage was below average at 9.8 mpg (usually between 10 mpg and 12 mpg). My wife said there was one alarming moment when a tractor-trailer rig pulled back into the right line ahead of her after passing in the left lane – she said it was very close to the front of the truck. Here is a picture at the KOA campground for the night (I had to flip this picture - not sure why).

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Looks good and enjoy these moments with your family and the trip out west. You have down very will with your wife; I still can not get my wife to drive the truck with the 5er attached. She said maybe this year on the IN. toll road when we travel to the F.R.O.G. rally in Elkhart IN. later this year.

Jim W.
 
Jim W., thanks for the well wishes.

I am glad that my older son wanted to go and spend that much time with his family at age 16. I expect this will be the last year.

My younger son did not want to go; I think he will see that he really missed out when we get off the plane in Wyoming. But, I kind of like that he and I will be bachelors together for most of the summer.

BTW, what is F.R.O.G.?
 
DAY 2

Day 2 was a travel day west across Indiana and Illinois and a little over half way across Iowa. The weather was better: no strong winds and some light rain, no thunderstorms. The truck continues to do great, and fuel economy was back to normal at 11.2 mpg. The route was I-80 skirting Chicago. My wife said the five lanes with lots of traffic was nerve-wracking (picture below). We did not practice on roads like these earlier because we don’t have any around us in northwestern Pennsylvania. At any rate, although not an enjoyable drive, worked through fine. A longer day; 385 miles.

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Jim W., thanks for the well wishes.

I am glad that my older son wanted to go and spend that much time with his family at age 16. I expect this will be the last year.

My younger son did not want to go; I think he will see that he really missed out when we get off the plane in Wyoming. But, I kind of like that he and I will be bachelors together for most of the summer.

BTW, what is F.R.O.G.?

Sorry; I should have spelled that out. Since we have bought our Cedar Creek34RL 5er; I have also joined the Forest River forum and found out about the F. (Forest) R. (River) O.(Owners) G. (Group). They hold rallies across the US several times a year for owners of Forest River products similar to the TDR rally we all attended. But the one difference at these rallies is Forest River will performer warranty work on your units. They also will service some of these units if arrangements have been made in advance.

I have meet several other owners who have attended these functions in the past and said the food was good and will worth the time and effort to attend.

Better than my Keystone Cougar where you could not even get any feed back from them.
 
DAY 2

Day 2 was a travel day west across Indiana and Illinois and a little over half way across Iowa. The weather was better: no strong winds and some light rain, no thunderstorms. The truck continues to do great, and fuel economy was back to normal at 11.2 mpg. The route was I-80 skirting Chicago. My wife said the five lanes with lots of traffic was nerve-wracking (picture below). We did not practice on roads like these earlier because we don’t have any around us in northwestern Pennsylvania. At any rate, although not an enjoyable drive, worked through fine. A longer day; 385 miles.

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At least she made it through without incident and is now in Iowa.

Everyone who lives around the Chicago Metropolitan area has to go through that maze as they drive east especially if you go to Michigan. I do this at least twice a year and sometimes more. When pulling the camper on I94/90/80 I tended to stay in the 2nd right hand lane as long as possible at a steady 60 MPH.

Jim
 
Jim W.,

We don't have any roads or traffic similar to around Chicago by us anywhere - even around Cleveland and Pittsburgh. I am not used to it, and would find it unpleasant in my car much less towing.

My wife had some comment about the trip planner last night; I don't know what she was talking about......:D

Good to hear about the owners group and factory on your 5ver - one of things that will influence my brand selection as I (hopefully) head for that selection as part of full-timing on retirement.
 
Day 3

Another travel day; great weather, easy roads, easy driving, nice campground tonight. Made it across Iowa and then north to east side of South Dakota.

My son takes pictures and e-mails me as they go. He wants to be a chemical engineer. I already have a bunch of pictures of industrial locations with all kinds of piping, etc. I told him a picture or two of the land wouldn't hurt!
 
DAY 4

Day 4 was travel day, completing the first leg of the trip west. Travelled west across South Dakota to the KOA campground on the edge of Badlands National Park. Easy roads, easy driving. The truck and trailer have worked out great. It occurs to me that a trip like this is probably old hat to many TDR members – a big deal to us, though. I am proud of my wife and son for undertaking this travel. I again appreciate all I learned on the TDR forum here because it helped me set everything up on the rig so I don’t worry about them driving.

Tremendously different country than northwestern Pennsylvania in the Badlands.

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DAY 5

Day 5 was spent hiking in the Badlands in the morning to early afternoon and then a trip to Wall Drug. The hike included the first sighting of pronghorn antelope for my son. He was surprised that the pronghorn are smaller, on average, than the eastern white-tail deer. I guess everyone should experience Wall Drug at some time. I am awaiting pictures of the Badlands.

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Russell;
One suggestion, noticed on your set-up picture that they are using the chock between the tires- this is good for trailer movement. I recommend, and a lot of people don't use this, is put down some chocks on the ground to block the wheels, keeps the rig from rolling and a little more safety is involved. To bad you can't be with them totally. Great adventure for you all. Enloy
 
I agree thanks for posting and great pictures so far. Also nothing is old hands when pulling a trailer and experiencing the great out doors of this wonderful country of ours.

:)

Jim
 
Looks like your family is having a great road trip. It would bug the heck out of me that they are on a road trip and couldn't join them for the whole time.
Give your wife a pat on the back for driving cross country, like others I cannot get my wife to drive the truck with the trailer attached.

We just completed a nine day Airstream caravan trip from KY up through Indiana and Michigan. We had seven units go on the trip. Since I am president of the KY WBCCI unit I planned the trip out. I called it my short "working man special caravan". Planning a trip for several folks is a lot more work than I thought. Everyone seemed to have a great time. My hat is off to you for such detailed planning for your family it can be a big job.
 
Russell,

I'm enjoying "traveling along" with you wife and son through your posts and photos. In a way, I'm re-living mine and my wife's first visit to the same areas over 40 years ago in our travel trailer. Thanks for "taking us along". :)

Bill
 
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