Then there was four- digits of torque.

[Cummins12V98]

How about some empty numbers between the two trucks? I do realize one is DEF and one isn't.

Looked back to similar driving mostly freeway the 11 would get in the 14's and the current 15 the 13's. Some tanks on both were higher but the 11 consistently a bit better. I am sure if the 15 had 3.42's it would be better than the 11 on the highway.

I never had any fuel in the oil sample of the 11.

If the 11 had the AISIN I would still own it as the trucks were basically identical.

 

[Wiredawg]

Just to clarify, you tow about 78K miles a year?

Or does the 30/wk include towing?

2% solo seems almost impossible to obtain. Heck 20% solo is a lower percentage than most trucks.

It was purchased to tow, sometimes it goes weeks without being driven, weekly is a goal to keep IT running, part of maintenance. Being out almost a year with my surgery has total towing miles lower than normal. It has 19K miles. I'm guessing a normal full year would have two 5 to 8K mile trips and 2 to 5K mile total short trips. My daily driver is my Jeep and we use my wife's truck pretty much the rest of the time. If I cared more about it, I could better qualify the numbers, but 2% is my WAG.

Cheers, Ron

 

[AH64ID]

It was purchased to tow, sometimes it goes weeks without being driven, weekly is a goal to keep IT running, part of maintenance. Being out almost a year with my surgery has total towing miles lower than normal. It has 19K miles. I'm guessing a normal full year would have two 5 to 8K mile trips and 2 to 5K mile total short trips. My daily driver is my Jeep and we use my wife's truck pretty much the rest of the time. If I cared more about it, I could better qualify the numbers, but 2% is my WAG.

Cheers, Ron

2% being a WAG makes more sense.

If it has 19K miles on it 2% non-towing is only 380 miles without the trailer, I think wan can safely state your WAG is a bit low even if you take into the account your abnormal year.

On a 8K mile towing trip you would only be doing 160 miles without the trailer.

It may be a WAG, but you make that 2% comment often and 2% without a trailer is an unrealistic number.

 

[Wiredawg]

2% being a WAG makes more sense.

If it has 19K miles on it 2% non-towing is only 380 miles without the trailer, I think wan can safely state your WAG is a bit low even if you take into the account your abnormal year.

On a 8K mile towing trip you would only be doing 160 miles without the trailer.

It may be a WAG, but you make that 2% comment often and 2% without a trailer is an unrealistic number.

Nothing like FACTS to square up a bad WAG. Maybe 10 or 15% in the full light of day. I guess I don't track or didnt think much about it. The mileage numbers are good though.

Thanks for the help.

Cheers, Ron

 

[gsbrockman]

Nothing like FACTS to square up a bad WAG. Maybe 10 or 15% in the full light of day. I guess I don't track or didnt think much about it. The mileage numbers are good though.

Thanks for the help.

Cheers, Ron

Have you ever pulled up the towing odometer from the EVIC...

 

[Wiredawg]

Have you ever pulled up the towing odometer from the EVIC...

The whaaaat? I guess that would be no. I'll check after I get cleaned up... wow, I guess I haven't explored enough into the menus.

I'm greasy right now under the LRE frustrated with not being able to grease the u-joints...installers didn't install them with the fittings accessible.

Anyway, cheers, Ron

 

[Cummins12V98]

"not being able to grease the u-joints...installers didn't install them with the fittings accessible."

I would kick someone in the nuts for doing that!

 

[HPSimpson]

Ron, I use the towing odometer keep track of trailers service time since like you i have several trailers and use this odometer for fuel mileage when towing.

 

[Cummins12V98]

When I’m hooked to MaxBrake or P3 my truck does not keep track of towing mileage.

 

[Wiredawg]

Have you ever pulled up the towing odometer from the EVIC...

Greg,

I checked it, but it's wrong, it only shows 2,852 miles... I expected to see 12 to 16K miles. I also checked the other 4 trailers and they're all 0. Although I don't recall resetting it, I or the dealer reset it.

"not being able to grease the u-joints...installers didn't install them with the fittings accessible."

I would kick someone in the nuts for doing that!

Ron,

Yep, my conclusion also. Before taking the driveshaft down, R&Iing them, I'm going to see if I can grind down two sides of a grease nozzle and rotating to give max clearance to see if I can seat and grease. If not, a lot of cussing as I remove the drive shaft to install them correctly.

ALL: And to make matters worse, while I was under the truck, a technician from the Ortho Clinic left a message at 1530 hrs which I heard at 1600 hrs to get an x-ray before my 0815 appt on Monday. With traffic, I couldn't get there until after 1700hrs and xray closes at 1630. And xray opens Monday at 0730. Not sure why they waited until PAST the last minute to let me know, but OH WELL, whatcha gonna do. Of course when I called, got recording no one is avail to take your call, please call back at a later time.

WAHHH.

Cheers, Ron​

 

[TFucili]

So, TFL just posted their video of the 2020 Ram 3500 Super Ike, pulling 30K. It was 1:12 slower than the Ford up the hill, but had ZERO brake applications going down, as the cruise control and exhaust brake maintained their set speed all the way. The GM took 9 brake applications, and the Ford took 5. Not a bad showing for "an old tractor motor" with a lowly, antiquated 6 speed transmission, which stayed at @170 degrees.

Ram: Time 11:32 Downhill Brake Apps 0 Uphill mpg 2.5
Ford: Time 10:20 Downhill Brake Apps 5 Uphill mpg 2.4
GM: Time 11:47 Downhill Brake Apps 9 Uphill mpg 2.4

 

[Wiredawg]

So, TFL just posted their video of the 2020 Ram 3500 Super Ike, pulling 30K. It was 1:12 slower than the Ford up the hill, but had ZERO brake applications going down, as the cruise control and exhaust brake maintained their set speed all the way. The GM took 9 brake applications, and the Ford took 5. Not a bad showing for "an old tractor motor" with a lowly, antiquated 6 speed transmission, which stayed at @170 degrees.

Ram: Time 11:32 Downhill Brake Apps 0 2.5 Uphill mpg
Ford: Time 10:20 Downhill Brake Apps 5 2.4 Uphill mpg
GM: Time 11:47 Downhill Brake Apps 9 2.4 Uphill mpg

Tom,

Thanks for the info... Both Ford AND Chevy are selling hype.... Ram and Cummins have a better setup, period, IMHO. Cummins has approx 40% fewer parts than both and proves straight six rules.

Cheers, Ron

 

[snadamo]

I watched said video this morning. VERY IMPRESSIVE downhill performance. Also a really not bad time for uphill in that "ancient" 6-speed. I saw a lot of the comments complaining that they also used adaptive cruise control which would apply brakes on your behalf to maintain set speed...but I don't know how that all works.

I am impressed with ford performance, but not the ford price

I am NOT impressed with GM as of late, all around kind of a letdown.

 

[TFucili]

I watched said video this morning. VERY IMPRESSIVE downhill performance. Also a really not bad time for uphill in that "ancient" 6-speed. I saw a lot of the comments complaining that they also used adaptive cruise control which would apply brakes on your behalf to maintain set speed...but I don't know how that all works.

I am impressed with ford performance, but not the ford price

I am NOT impressed with GM as of late, all around kind of a letdown.

Interesting point, I knew they used cruise, but was unaware that adaptive cruise would apply brakes in a situation other than running up on another vehicle. If that's the case then the results are potentially inaccurate.

I did not opt for adaptive cruise, and the various nanny devices. Can someone who has it confirm operation?

 

[Wiredawg]

I know the crash avoidance system (CAS) applies brakes on my wife's 2019 1500, but have not observed brakes applied by the adaptive cruise control (ACC). Reading Google, the ACC works with CAS, so the answer could be ACC decelerates with throttle, and CAS engages brakes when activated.

This is just postulating different facts, but not sure I'm correct.

Cheers, Ron

 

[Ozymandias]

Interesting point, I knew they used cruise, but was unaware that adaptive cruise would apply brakes in a situation other than running up on another vehicle. If that's the case then the results are potentially inaccurate.

I did not opt for adaptive cruise, and the various nanny devices. Can someone who has it confirm operation?

Yes AAC does that since the beginning, that's not new. It regulates more or less like the EB let it go something like 3mph over set speed and then brakes and let go again.
But a careless driver maybe could burn down the brakes that way on a steep incline. Maybe the EVIC would set out a warning after some time.

Edit: AAC set the brakes incredibly smooth, I say most drivers dont even recognize it.

 

[HPSimpson]

Adaptive cruise control will applied the brakes I have observe this many times while towing trailers going down the freeway, vehicle pulls in front adaptive applied the brakes to same speed as vehicle in front, vehicle moves to another lane my truck will go back to original set speed. When AAC applied the brakes you will notice period.

 

[TFucili]

Adaptive cruise control will applied the brakes I have observe this many times while towing trailers going down the freeway, vehicle pulls in front adaptive applied the brakes to same speed as vehicle in front, vehicle moves to another lane my truck will go back to original set speed. When AAC applied the brakes you will notice period.

But will it apply the brakes in a downhill circumstance, such as this, where there is no vehicle impeding your path?

 

[HPSimpson]

On next trip when I will be towing again I will turn off the exhaust brake and see what AAC will due and report back. There is two cruise controls on my Ram: Standard cruise you have to watch what is going on, and AAC

 

[Wiredawg]

I don't care much for ACC, too many bad drivers pass, and come over too soon, causing mine to brake, even though they are going faster than me. In my 17 5500, I would keep my speed and move my foot over to the brake in case the idiot passes and then brakes. The same with the 1500 on reg CC. ACC is a great option if folks didnt practically cut you off passing.

I know CAS works great in reverse, backing in my wife's 2019 Ram 1500, it locks brakes about a foot from bollard backing in. Haven't tried it forward as I always back into parking spots.

Cheers, Ron