THIS LSD is JUNK!!!!!!

[NSperduto]

I'll agree with everyone else, BFG AT's are great tires. I'm on my 3rd set on my dakota, I love them.



I'll also agree with you, the LSD sucks.



Nick

 

[LightmanE300]

Sorry to hear about your troubles Lil red =] Shoot me a pm next time you're stuck and I'll come by and give ya a pull My truck came stock with bfg's, although not AT's. They are totally worthless on slippery mud, grass, or snow in 2wd as well. Once I hit 4wd it seems to do pretty well though. Lots of weight on that front axle. I also have a 51 gal aux tank which adds about 400lbs to the rear.

 

[CAKUZ]

Useless Lsd !

the Limited Slip Differential that is.



Seems like many are so quick to suggest everyone should get a 4X4, etc. They completely miss the point. Lil red is p***ed that the LSD option he paid for is useless/doesn't work. Gary got it right.



My limited slip also is useless as the tires on one side spins on slick surfaces while the other sits still. I don't plan to get rid of my truck and buy a 4X4 because my LSD does not work as it should, I just need to get the LSD fixed.



My last truck was a 95 CTD Ram 4X4. I paid about $3000 extra for an option that I can recall using one time to get un-stuck. If I lived in an area where there was a lot of snow & ice I would buy another 4X4, but I can pay for a lot of tows or get a farmer pull me out with his tractor for $3000. I lived in Michigan for about 16 yrs. & used to go back in the deep woods to deer hunt... . funny, I never needed a 4X4 and never got in a place I could not get out of. Another reason I did not buy a 4X4 is they sit up too high to tow many 5th wheel RV's. Many "Hot Shot" dealers will not hire you to tow trailers if you have a 4X4. Did I mention extra service & parts, less fuel mileage, etc, etc? :-laf



I don't need or want a 4X4, just need to get the limited slip I paid for to work properly. Oo.

 

[DGFoster]

I havent had to use 4 wheel drive yet,does pretty good in 2. Both tires are gripping from what I can tell. Stock BF Goodrich tires. .

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Previous to our move here to eastern Oregon - Jofn Day area, I've only had isolated need for the LSD in my '02 - but with the predicted snows for this area, will probably have LOTS more opinions and experiences on the subject by springtime! I didn't want the headaches caused by the substantially different suspension in a 4x4, and still don't - so if routine winter travel seeming requires 4WD, will hafta rely on my wifes '05 Ford Escape 4x4...



We have the truck primarily for RV towing, and don't RV in winter months anyway, so traction in snow is really not an issue so far...

 

[robert4570]

absolutely NOTHING WORKED!! i am so MAD i can't see straight.



never once did i see BOTH wheels spinning!!!!!



lil red cummins



I hope a LSD was installed in yours , thats a severe case of failure.

If you have'nt already , you might want to pop that diff cover and see whats going on . Last resort install a Lincoln Locker .

 

[Patriot_RAM]

Floor-It had a one wheel wonder when the sticker said LSD. That has to suck. I guess you could check whether or not it is actually working by putting one tire on pavement and the other on grass. Hit it and see what spins.

 

[lil red cummins]

CAKUZ: you hit the nail on the head.



i really haven't been able to justify 4wd because in the past, i could only see using it maybe 10 days/year. my dad has it on his expedition, and he and i used it maybe 5 days so far this winter.



i have done tons of maintainence on 4wd systems in the past 30 years. that is one of the reasons i really don't want it on my truck. fortunately i got paid to work on them. the increased cost of ownership of 4wd, extra weight, drop in fuel mileage and limited time of use has always held me back from having it on my own, not to mention the vibration and steering component problems that i read about on the TDR associated with 4wd.



be that as it may, i will probably consider better tires for the rear. the truck is here to stay for many years i hope. besides the tires, i will definately look into the differential in spring, to see what's in there.



it seems possible that there is no LSD, based on the way it behaves.



jim

 

[RJOL]

... Seems like many are so quick to suggest everyone should get a 4X4, etc. They completely miss the point. Lil red is p***ed that the LSD option he paid for is useless/doesn't work... .



... I lived in Michigan for about 16 yrs. & used to go back in the deep woods to deer hunt... . funny, I never needed a 4X4 and never got in a place I could not get out of.

Here is the point...



First... You don't buy a 2WD CTD and expect is to be great in the snow and ice... If you have this setup you will have to put more load in the rear and get better tires... even if you LSD is working properly...



Second... I bet when you went back in the deep woods, in you 2WD truck, it wasn't a 2WD CTD...

 

[JHardwick]

the CTD loads the front heavy and unloads the rear ... ... ... ... ... . beyond that it is a "LSD" ... ... ... . compare "limited" to "open" 1 time

 

[bmoeller]

Seems like many are so quick to suggest everyone should get a 4X4, etc. They completely miss the point. Lil red is p***ed that the LSD option he paid for is useless/doesn't work.

My LSD works. I've still needed the 4x4 to get around. The LSD helps a huge bunch, but it can't do it all when the front end goes down in soft conditions, or on wet grass/icy roads.



If my LSD wasn't working, I'd be ticked off also.

 

[BHaner]

Has anyone found a locker for the AAM axles yet? Or a way to make the factory LSD more agressive?

 

[DPKetchum]

Did you make sure you have LSD. Mine with or with out trailer will spin both in wet grass/mud etc. The other day in the wet and turning I nailed mine and spun sideways and stayed sideways turning through a intersection. Some folkes at the red light facing the way I was going had eyes that looked like Little Orphan Annie.

 

[BHaner]

Can anyone tell me how the factory LSD works? I read somewhere on here that there are no springs or frictions. So how does it work??



Looking at the AAM site it looks like we have:



TracRiteªCC



AAM's Cone Clutch (CC) differential takes torque input from the vehicle and automatically biases torque. The TracRiteªCC offers a low-cost, low-mass solution for your vehicle along with all of the features that have come to be associated with AAM's line of high-quality differentials.





Too bad that doesn't tell me how it works...

 

[lil red cummins]

bhaner: that is the $64,000 question and one i asked when starting this thread.



please, someone let us know what is supposed to make this beast tick



jim

 

[nickleinonen]

Can anyone tell me how the factory LSD works? I read somewhere on here that there are no springs or frictions. So how does it work??



Looking at the AAM site it looks like we have:



TracRiteªCC



AAM's Cone Clutch (CC) differential takes torque input from the vehicle and automatically biases torque. The TracRiteªCC offers a low-cost, low-mass solution for your vehicle along with all of the features that have come to be associated with AAM's line of high-quality differentials.





Too bad that doesn't tell me how it works...

here is a screen grab from the factory service manual... there are no friction discs, but there are 6 brake shoes behind the 6 pinion gears...



#ad

 

[BHaner]

Looking at that pic it doesn't look like the TrackRite CC. What version do our trucks have? The GT??



http://www.americanaxle.com/technology/tech_prod_dl_diff.html

 

[EEdmondson]

I think we have a torsen type LSD. I remember reading about it about 20 years ago in Popular Science. I didn't understand then and still don't now. There is a thread on here somewhere about a locker available for our trucks.

Try this: https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120217&highlight=locker

 

[nickleinonen]

Looking at that pic it doesn't look like the TrackRite CC. What version do our trucks have? The GT??



http://www.americanaxle.com/technology/tech_prod_dl_diff.html

the GT looks like what we have...

 

[DPKetchum]

Are you sure YOU HAVE the liminted slip?