thanks for the info all the replies are appreciated. I,ll look for a smarty guy or buy one for myself, The 20K wasn,t by design I bought it to travel in but things changed quickly after I retired, traded my golf clubs for a weed wacker and never had time to look back. I do have a sweet 93 I like to drive, its shorter and I have a tonau cover on it and it just turned 80K , I stay buisy doing projects the tdr members lead me into, I have both the 02 and the 93 in pieces trying to get them back together . when i go for parts many times i,m told "we can get it in 3 to 7 days, maybe ,ok ,so does ya wants me should i order it for ya? Must be ford guys. so i reply ,ru nah i tink ill jus drive to the city and get it today. Living in obscurity has its good points though. thanks members.