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Living in the crazy anti gun state of CT deprives us shooters of some fun toys that others elsewhere can play with anytime. That being said, we were just on vacation in the great state of New Hampshire and got to play with my dream toy-a real live antique full auto Thompson Submachine Gun. The Belmont Gun Store and Firing Range was kind enough to take our money and rent us a Tommy Gun. It is an indoor range so I couldn't set up cans, etc to shoot at, but still-I got to light off a Tommy Gun!! It was great and I couldn't resist posting the youtube video here:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zumco00wuU



I asked the store how much they retail for just out of curiosity. About $20k for a full auto was the answer. HHHMMMMmmm... let's go winning Powerball ticket!
 
The slide didn't lock back??! That could get you killed on the streets of Harlem!!! :-laf

Those rounds go quick on the bottom switch setting, don't they? He he he, just remember, aim bottom left and drift up and right... . if one misses, the other 5-6 won't!! :D
 
You know, that was the first gun I've used that fires from an open bolt. I guess I expected to notice something different because of it, but that's not what happened. Really, it was no different that anything else. Granted, it was on a range, and maybe if I were a combat soldier in WWII, there would be differences that affect me. I expected the ammo to go quick and boy did it!! Two boxes of . 45s simply dissappeared almost as quickly as my money did. It was worth it, though.



I was really impressed with the build quality of the gun. Despite its age, there were no rattles, shakes, malfunctions, or anything else other than perfect operation. It was solidly built and holding it instantly gave the feeling of quality. It was actually a lot heavier than I expected, but that helped control recoil. If only I lived in New Hampshire... ... . If only I had $20 grand... ...
 
Sure thing. First let me say that I know it was a bunch of money and I'm not made of it, but it was a one time thing and hey-IT'S A TOMMY GUN!



The range http://www.belmontfirearms.com/ charges $75 to rent antique machine guns and $45 for more modern ones. This isn't per hour, just a one time fee. Of course, then you have to feed the thing and it has one hell of an appetite. Each box of . 45 cal was $25 and I used 2 boxes. Then there's the range time at $16 per hour per person. So all told, it was expensive. I shot some of my guns there, too, so I wasn't there just for the Tommy Gun. Just for the Thompson was $75 rental+$50 ammo= $125 not including the range time. Check on their site in the link above. They also have an Uzi, M-3 Grease Gun and others for rent. A real boy's toys kind of place.



BTW-the video I posted here was my first mag of 25 rounds and it went a bit slower as I shot the first few single shot. The mag after that took only about 12 seconds to empty doing short bursts of 3 or 4. If I had held the trigger, not only would the ceiling have many holes in it from the muzzle climb, but the gun would have been empty in maybe 3 or 4 seconds. The ammo and money go quickly. Can't wait for next years vacation to try it again!
 
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That was one of the things I wanted to do when my wife and I were in Vegas celebrating our 40th wedding anniversary! I shot one mag of 25 and she shot one. It was only $50 total and we both enjoyed it!
 
I was in Vegas 2 years ago and found a indoor range. $150 and I got 50 rounds each of a MP-5, a M3 grease gun and a Thompson. All full auto. Great experience, nice people. The grease gun was the best. I searched for a place to shoot a 50 cal. I place had one for something 150 - 200 including 1 shot and then 10 per round after. Only problem was they would only go to a 100 yd range! What's the point!!?? I would want to go 600 at least!
 
It's nice to know people with a Class 3. I've had the opportunity to fire a suppressed auto AR on several occasions. Yeah, it's fun, and expensive in ammo alone. Never did a full mag dump. Just 4-5 round bursts (going for accuracy over spray and pray). Real embarrassing when you hit bolt lock, did not notice it like I should have, and the flinch when you try to do another burst.
 
I had to make some really hard life altering choices when I went to the range to shoot the auto. It was a gut wrenching process to decide between the Thompson, Uzi, and M-3. :-laf Some others, too. As the Thompson is my favorite, I chose that, but next year I'm leaning towards the M-3. Oh such troubles...
 
Well that kind of defeats the purpose of video sharing, doesn't it? It never used to be. I know google was doing some monkeying around with accounts so I'll see what's up and fix it tonight. Sorry about that.
 
All set. There were a few videos that used to be public and now were private. Don't know why that happened as I didn't mess with them. Thanks for the heads up.
 
I made, 'First Class Shot' using a TSMG, Tommygun during Infantry training in the British Army during WW2, however I would not carry one in action, the reason was the American made ammunition. The British made a . 45 round but it was Revolver ammunition and unsuitable for use in a Tommygun.

We were taught the ins and outs of the Tommy gun, how it worked, taking it apart, cleaning, reassembly etc, but the first time to fire one was also a test of your use and scores. You started with a full magazine, the first 5 rounds were single shots aimed at a score target. From there you set it to automatic and walked between targets firing in bursts, then breaking into a run and running in ziz-zaz fashion through targets again firing in bursts.

During the initial firing at the score targets, the first two rounds fired, however the third time squeezing the trigger I heard a dull thump, cocked the gun and the round was ejected and I fired again, a dull thud again, this time I held my left hand over the chamber and caught the round as I ejected it as I was standing in a foot of snow and did not want to have to dig in the snow to retrieve it with bare hands. (darned cold as I was) I checked the base of the round as I though perhaps the tip of the firing pin had broken off being it was so cold at the time, as two dud rounds in a row would be unusual, (although I never had any dud rounds firing British ammunition in any weapon) but it had a beautiful deep dead center dip in it. I reentered it to the chamber and fired again but it was a dud. I finished the course and got a first class shot with it, as all the hits were counted. I found it a pleasant weapon to fire, easy to handle, well made, but sadly it was the ammunition I had no faith in.

In recent years over the internet checking the British Army in Burma during WW2 have read where soldiers were killed as their Tommyguns jammed, in training I never heard of any jamming difficulties and I wonder how it could happen, as with all weapons, if any difficulties occurred when firing you would be instructed how to deal with them if a gun jams or misfires there has to be a reason.

The British Bren gun an automatic use the same . 303 rimed rounds as the rifles so when loading the magazine one had to insert one round under the other, meaning the next rim under the previous inserted rim, otherwise it would jam, but being well trained that would be unusual to happen. When loading a Bren magazine, one would enter the following rounds by placing the round rim on the body of the round already in the magazine and pushing up under the rim and in. I was also a first class shot on the Bren.
 

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