used truck question

[Cummins12V98]

Genos sells a nice adapter for a 3/8 ratchet to change the oilfilter.
To make no mess, cut off a plastic water bottle, push it up around the filter, unscrew it that way that it drops into the bottle. No mess.

Please tell me how you pre fill the filter put a screw on lid on the filter then turn sideways push thru the hole turn down unscrew lid then one handed raid it screw it on and not spill a drop???

 

[Cummins12V98]

This is a bit disappointing....especially with a plant right down the road.

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Thank you!

 

[Ozymandias]

Please tell me how you pre fill the filter put a screw on lid on the filter then turn sideways push thru the hole turn down unscrew lid then one handed raid it screw it on and not spill a drop???

I never pre filled an oilfilter an never will, thats an American thing that no one does in Europe, totally unknown.
There is ever and always enough oil left on all bearing surfaces to run for a shoert time without.
You would be amazed how long instead an engine can run without any oil pressure and without load till it locks up.

 

[Newsa]

I never pre filled an oilfilter an never will, thats an American thing that no one does in Europe, totally unknown.
There is ever and always enough oil left on all bearing surfaces to run for a shoert time without.
You would be amazed how long instead an engine can run without any oil pressure and without load till it locks up.

Me neither. And i have 2 oil filters that are pressurized by the oil pump. Had 2 filters on a v6 isuzu with 2 oil filters and never had a problem starting with dry filters on that vehicle either. Thw cummins runs at a lower RPM than my former v6 .

 

[jhenderson]

How do all the engines with horizontally mounted filters survive since you can’t pre fill them during installation?

 

[mfurrh55]

Had a friend that had a Ford, went through 3 turbos because he didn't prefill the oil filter, once he started prefilling oil filter he quit losing turbos

 

[Cummins12V98]

I never pre filled an oilfilter an never will, thats an American thing that no one does in Europe, totally unknown.
There is ever and always enough oil left on all bearing surfaces to run for a shoert time without.
You would be amazed how long instead an engine can run without any oil pressure and without load till it locks up.

I understand all that BUT I still want an answer from those that do the thru fender and say they pre fill as CUMMINS recommends and do not spill any oil. Prefill means add 1 full quart to the filter.

 

[Cummins12V98]

How do all the engines with horizontally mounted filters survive since you can’t pre fill them during installation?

I have had them and I disconnect running mechanism whatever it takes and spin the engine over.

Bottom line either you go by what CUMMINS says or not.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Had a friend that had a Ford, went through 3 turbos because he didn't prefill the oil filter, once he started prefilling oil filter he quit losing turbos

Their oil filter is MUCH larger than ours!

 

[Jim W]

Had a friend that had a Ford, went through 3 turbos because he didn't prefill the oil filter, once he started prefilling oil filter he quit losing turbos

That's a Ford not the Cummins engine. I also never prefill my oil filter I am always afraid of debris entering the engine thru without filtered oil, from the oil filter if pre-filled.

 

[Newsa]

Is that the ford that sheared it' s oil so that it was not holding a film?

 

[mfurrh55]

That's a Ford not the Cummins engine. I also never prefill my oil filter I am always afraid of debris entering the engine thru without filtered oil, from the oil filter if pre-filled.

His turbo was starting up with no lube, no matter what engine I always prefill my filter, my 5.9 has never had an oil change without prefilling oil filter and bypass filter, My preference, you do what you want... Free country!

 

[AH64ID]

His turbo was starting up with no lube, no matter what engine I always prefill my filter, my 5.9 has never had an oil change without prefilling oil filter and bypass filter, My preference, you do what you want... Free country!

That only works on some engines, as many engines have horizontal filters. Even with these vertical filters they still drain back to 1/2 full on most shutdowns.

There is always leftover lube, always. If a engine cant survive starting with an empty oil filter it wouldn't survive any cold weather starts.

 

[gsbrockman]

I also never prefill my oil filter I am always afraid of debris entering the engine thru without filtered oil, from the oil filter if pre-filled.

Are you referring to the same, unfiltered oil that goes into the engine every oil change?

 

[dieselshadow]

The world has come to end! What do we do!?!? OMG!!!

Really? Pre-fill, install empty. Who cares? It’s your truck, your engine. Do what makes you smile. Life’s too short....

 

[Cummins12V98]

The world has come to end! What do we do!?!? OMG!!!

Really? Pre-fill, install empty. Who cares? It’s your truck, your engine. Do what makes you smile. Life’s too short....

But some think you are an idiot if done different than them.

 

[dieselshadow]

But some think you are an idiot if done different than them.

And it always seems to be the same few people....

 

[Jim W]

Are you referring to the same, unfiltered oil that goes into the engine every oil change?

Yes, but I have less chance of getting debris in the oil from pouring oil into the top of the engine than I do trying to get the pre-filled oil filter installed on the engine! Were you need to go through from underneath and dirt can enter the oil canister by brushing next to something! Now if you powerwash the area before installing the filter I guess there would be no dirt.