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My 99 dodge pickup died the other day. No codes, Changed the fuel filter, no luck. Decided to see if I had fuel to the injectors. Cylinders 3 and 4 looked good but not the others. Could the pump go bad like that. I dont want to buy a rebuilt pump if its not the problem.

Any help would be great.
 
Changed the fuel filter, no luck.
Welcome aboard!



Yes there are ways to test the VP44 on the truck, but have you checked the lift pump fuel pressure first?



To do this, connect a fuel pressure test gauge to the Schraeder valve located at the fuel inlet on the VP44, then turn the ignition key to the START position but just bump the starter (do not start the engine) and leave then it in the RUN position. This will cause the lift pump to activate for about 25 seconds. You should hear it run. The fuel pressure should rise quickly and ideally be around 15 psi or higher.



A fuel pressure test gauge kit can be purchased at your favorite auto parts store, or for pretty cheap at places like eBay or Harbor Freight Tools.



Please let us know what you find out.



Regards,



John L.
 
I wouldn't reley on the lift pump being new. If it is an OEM pump I had 5 on mine before I put a FASS on mine. Do like Landry said Test the fuel pressure!
 
Lift pump is new. I changed it about 6 months ago.
As Jack inferred, besides the possibility of your 6 month old lift pump simply failing (the OEM Carter pumps are notorious), there are a half dozen other reasons why it might stop running not the fault of the lift pump. For example, the lift pump is powered directly by the ECM, and occasionally we hear about an ECM which fails. You could have a wiring problem, etc.



It's best to eliminate the basics and most common problems before you attempt to test the VP44 on the truck, this is why I recommended you verify that you have adequate fuel pressure. Replacing the fuel filter was a smart move.



Once you verify the fuel pressure is adequate, the next step would be to make sure excessive air isn't trapped in the fuel filter cannister and fuel supply line leading to the VP44. This can be accomplished by loosening the fitting at the VP44 fuel inlet, placing a suitable container under this fitting (small coffee can, etc. ), and then activating the lift pump again until a steady stream of fuel comes out of the fitting. Tightening up the VP44 fuel inlet fitting and then try starting the engine again after loosening 2 or 3 injector lines to purge air from them (sounded like you already know that technique).



If you still don't have any luck, you can CAREFULLY hot wire the VP44 by doing the following:



Disconnect the VP44 wiring harness connector completely.

Connect pin 6 on the VP44 to battery ground.

Connect pin 7 on the VP44 to battery positive.



A diagram of the sockets on the VP44 wiring harness connector is included below. The pins on the VP44 will be the reverse of this diagram (a mirror image). Make sure you know which pins are which... numbers are molded on the connector and possibly on the VP44 (I can't remember). You must insure you don't cause any short circuits or make connections to the wrong pins on the VP44. I would also strongly advise you to add a 15 amp fuse between the VP44 and battery positive.



As soon as you make the last connection the VP44, it will be ON and ready to go. Attempt to start the engine in the normal manner. If everything is working properly, the engine will immediately start and idle and do nothing else. Be aware the accelerator pedal won't work and the ignition key won't shut off the engine once started. To shut off the engine, you'll need to pull the jumper wire from the battery positive terminal.



Also be aware that by doing this you'll have a bunch of DTC's (Diagnostic Trouble Codes) set in the ECM and PCM and the check engine lamp will be lite. You'll need to clear them all with a code scanner afterwards. No harm done... just wanted you to be aware of it.



Good luck!



John L.
 
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i am curious if any of you have put the fass direct replacement lift pump in? not the one with the filters just the pump it's self. i'm curious to how you like it. and does it push more fuel or is it stock pressure?
 
My 99 dodge pickup died the other day. No codes,



GT that's what happened to me when mine went - it just died. Driving along not a care in the world and just "poof" no warning, no dash lights not nothing, all of a sudden the truck was rolling down the road and way to quiet, looked at the dash no lights at all? No tach, no oil psi. Got to the side of the road and it cranked fine wouldn't fire. Towed home plugged in the code reader and got the dreaded P1689 death code.



Tried what JL recommended to you with no luck = wouldn't fire. Remanned VP and she fired right up.
 
mine went with no codes at all last month ...



pulling onto the four lane to buy a tubing bender ...



bwaaaaaaaaaa ... ... . nothing



new pump ... perfect
 
My 99 dodge pickup died the other day. No codes, Changed the fuel filter, no luck. Decided to see if I had fuel to the injectors. Cylinders 3 and 4 looked good but not the others. Could the pump go bad like that. I dont want to buy a rebuilt pump if its not the problem.

Any help would be great.



Possible sheared shaft in it. Only pumping to 3+4.
 
Siezed Shaft

Sounds like my truck's pump failure 4 years ago, no codes execept P1693, which means:



P1693 (M) DTC Detected in Companion Module A fault has been generated in the companion engine

control module.



P1693 (M) DTC Detected in PCM/ECM or DTC

Detected in ECM

A 9Companion DTC9 was set in both the ECM and PCM.



Other words, "I'm not going to tell you!"



I had to take to a shop that had a code reader that can read the Cummins bus. It turned out to be a siezed shaft, A rebulit II VP-44 & it runs great again! Later I added a Glaicer Pump, Now a day's I'd do an Airdog or a FASS.



"The more things change, the more they stay the same. :rolleyes:"
 
Bovee, I have read that it is hit or miss on the Fass Direct replacement pumps.

The FASS 95 gph and up are the best but more labor intense to install.
 
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