Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Vulcan Relocate Kit ????

[obert]

I was going to make my own kit. The hose is only a couple bucks a foot, few dollars for a fitting, oh wait theres like five, the the adapters that I'd have to spend half an hour on the phone withthe parker guy to get, and wait for days to see as they wont have those in stock, easy to make a new bracket, but wait, now I need 40 feet of wire, loom and 2 deutch connectors and pins (which may be a real PITA to most, but I have those in a connector kit at work and this was the easiest part).



All the "few dollar" parts started adding up, plus my time, it was VERY easy to part with the $130 for vulcan.



Max wedge-- Cummins PN 4090046 is a cummins campaign, or recall, pump kit. Not all dealers will sell it, some will at a marked up price. Mine is from Cummins Bridgeway's Columbus branch. They cover areas of OH and MI, with several locations. $69. 28 out the door.

 

[Sageair]

I've not found replacing the pump to be a 5 minute project. Maybe an hour. It's hard to get the threads started again when the pump is replaced.

I carry a spare pump with me should this one fail. I sprang for extra fittings and already have them installed on the new pump. I also got two vise grips to pinch off the lines and a nut driver for the hose clamps. I am sure I could do mine in 10 minutes in the dark.

 

[Jeepmullet]

I carry a spare pump with me should this one fail. I sprang for extra fittings and already have them installed on the new pump. I also got two vise grips to pinch off the lines and a nut driver for the hose clamps. I am sure I could do mine in 10 minutes in the dark.

I have an extra pump but dont ever take the fittings out of the hose, I just untwisted the fittings still on the hose. It worked fine, but the thick hose made it hard to manipulate the ends of the fittings so they would fit in the pump.

 

[NicholasMiller]

Don't forget about the wiring harness extension and loom to new location. I haven't bought this kit yet, but I think it is time, psi is 15 at idle but under wot drops to 5-6. Replaced the LP once and vp44 twice (second one was under warranty, faulty pump).

 

[Nate]

I haven't looked at it closely yet... didn't have time last night.



Not saving the Vulcan kit is bad.



Harness? just cut the plug off the end of the harness... add in a few feet of wire and there you go.

 

[Nate]

Can someone explain a bit better the difference between the Vulcan Big Line kit and the Vulcan Geno's Kit?



I realize that the Geno's kit is just 3/8" line, and the big line is 1/2". Is that the only thing?



The fittings that replace the banjo fitting, are those an -AN thread??



I want to price it out and see if I can put something together for cheaper. I'm not saying that the Vulcan kit is bad, or overpriced, just I have some of the parts on hand already.



I just have a dummy light for the fuel pressure. I've never seen it turn on other than when I first start it, so it's never hit less than 5 psi.

 

[MDale]

Just wondering if there was any advantage to running the valcan kit compared to a pusher pump inline with the stock lift pump like I have now. My pressure is good 11 wot, but was thinking that the 1/2in line might help for more volume? Any sugggestions?

 

[RClark]

Genos kit is a 3/8 line to the filter and stock to the VP44. Vulcans is 1/2 from the pump to filter to VP44 with a tee that can be inserted where you want to take fuel pressure. Well worth the extra money. CAll and talk to Eric at Vulcan.

 

[Nate]

Do you have a # for him, or a website? The only info I found for the big line kit was on powerbypoole.com.



I'm curious if the line could be black and not blue. I don't like the blue line.



I get my fuel pressure from the extra port in the fuel filter top, so I don't need another one.

 

[Jefff929]

Do you have a # for him, or a website? The only info I found for the big line kit was on powerbypoole.com.



I'm curious if the line could be black and not blue. I don't like the blue line.



I get my fuel pressure from the extra port in the fuel filter top, so I don't need another one.

http://www.vulcanperformance.com

 

[Nate]

Eric emailed me back and they only do the kit in blue line, and won't sell just the fittings.



I just don't like the blue. I'd be tempted to spray paint it even.

 

[Tom W]

Nate: If you want to do your own, take your lift pump to a good hydraulic hose supply house and try to get them to match the fittings. I don't know the size but it is metric into the pump and AN to the hose. They are available but hard to find. Once you get the fittings the rest is fairly easy. Make a mounting bracket, extend the wiring( just cut and solder) , new hoses. You can get hose and use slip on fittings or better yet get the hose made up by the hydraulic shop. For a good fit get them to put fittings on one end, install and cut the length, take back and get the other end put on. Cut the steel line from the tank and slip the hose over it and clamp. You will need L fittings on the hose end into the fuel filter and injector pump, straight for the lift pump.



Maybe one of our members can tell you where to get the fittings. You will need two for the lift pump, two for the filter, and one into the injector pump. Good luck.

 

[Nate]

There's a shop in Boise I was told about, Andy's Supply, that is supposed to have a ton of fittings.



I have a spare banjo fitting that I can use to match up what I need.



The line coming from the tank is 3/8" right? What do I do to make it 1/2"?



I don't want to make it sound like I don't support what Eric at Vulcan is doing, but if I can make it myself for less money, I will... I have to spread my paycheck fairly thin, a few dollars saved here and there is always good.



Can I remove the mounting plate off the side of the engine? Someone was saying that oil was leaking out or something??

 

[Tom W]

I took the bracket off the engine and couldn't get the hole covered right. Had to buy a new bracket.



Make a bracket; get a 3" X 8" X 1/4" mild steel and bend it 90 degrees and drill some holes.



The hose to the lift pump is very short, no need for it to be 1/2", In fact I don't think any of it needs to be 1/2"

 

[Nate]

Making a bracket is no big deal, I've got plenty of scrap steel laying in a pile in the garage. I just was thinking there was no use to keep the exisiting bracket on the side of the engine.



I might just do 3/8" I was thinking 1/2" hose was a bit large. Figure from the tank to the pump would be 3/8", then goes to 1/2"... I don't see how the larger hose would help if the pump can only suck though 3/8".

 

[jrobinson2]

The adapters are 12mm, 1. 5 thread pitch, I ordered 5 to fit 3/8 JIC through my hose supplier, when I got my monthly bill they charged me over $45 for 5 adapters, then add the push-lock fittings and aeroquip AQP hose I already had, then another 1/2 hour to drill out the adapters and the vulcan price looks fair to me.

 

[Nate]

I'm looking at about $70 worth of parts to go with 3/8" line. The 12mm adapters are $8 ea, the 3/8" NPT to hose bare are $2. 50, and hose is $0. 40 a foot.



3/8" or 1/2", does it matter?

 

[NVR FNSH]

I'm looking at about $70 worth of parts to go with 3/8" line. The 12mm adapters are $8 ea, the 3/8" NPT to hose bare are $2. 50, and hose is $0. 40 a foot.



3/8" or 1/2", does it matter?

You've got $40 for your time/labor before you equal the Vulcan kit. How much time have you already got invested in this?



Brian

 

[Jrork]

Go with the Vulcan kit. For the money the kit is worth it, the product works as promised and Eric is a hell of a great guy to do business with and I'd prefer to support the group by doing business with somebody that has an equal interest in the things that I'm in to.

 

[Nate]

Actually I did most of the research during my lunch break at work... so I got paid to do it



That's what happens when your broke... you find things to do with your time that don't cost too much. Like I'm planting a garden... just got it all tilled up.