Watch out Amsoil !!!

[illflem]

Met a new researcher for another of the MSU Ag Research Stations, for which I work, whose main research is into canola oil engine lubricants. This is the only canola lubricant research in the country. Initial research in the last two years indicates that the canola oil is superior to all other petro and syn oils with fewer additives. Research has a long way to go, mainly to get API certification. He has grant money available that needs to be matched by dollars from the private sectors. He has already contacted John Deere and Kubota asking for tractors to experiment on, they asked how many he wants! Will be contacting Dodge. Another advantage is that you can lick the dipstick clean when checking the level. Read about it here If you want to get more technical try this.

 

[DarrellB]

Your not supost to lick it now?



Big D

 

[gitchesum]

Originally posted by DarrellB

Your not supost to lick it now?



Big D

That's what i was thinking? Doesn't everyone perform this little fuel station onsite oil analysis?

 

[tgbol]

oh boy we can drive down the road and cook the french fries at the same time.

 

[DarrellB]

Maybe that's why my toung is black, Ya think?



Big D

 

[redneckdr]

black tongue

darrellb:



i don't think we want to go there... ... ... ... . this is supposed to be a family oriented site. ROTFLMAO

 

[JMorrow]

Originally posted by DarrellB

Maybe that's why my toung is black, Ya think?



Big D

CHOW

 

[Amianthus]

Great.

Just what I need. Something else to add to my bad cholesterol.

 

[Bob Wagner]

here's even more

www.yellowbiodiesel.com

 

[JohnE]

Boidiesel is over 100 years old!



Have we all forgotten Rudolph Diesel designed the original compression ignition engine to burn surplus vegetable oils?



Do any of you get the biodiesel newsletter? I do. Biodiesel is the next hot political fuel destined to replace CNG at sucking up our tax dollars.



Bob;

How do you find <em>those</em> websites?



Bill;

A company in Seattle experimented with hoyoba oil additives back in the 80's. I has a jug of their additive until I moved this past winter.

I believe Idaho something is doing a study on rape seed oil, too.



-John

 

[Bob Wagner]

Hi John E.

there was an article today in the www.southcountyjournal.com



your ex-hometown newspaper

 

[boathead]

Sounds great to me, how do we get it? Just like biodiesel, another great common sense idea that the oil companies will suppress because it would involve too much effort on their part.

I'm all in favor of a product that lubricates better, pollutes less, and gives the American farmer a chance to make a friggin' profit instead of the damn oil companies.

 

[Sled Puller]

Cool!



There has been biodegradable oils for quite some now. This one sounds like they have taken it one step further.

Gene

 

[Bob Riley]

Where does he claim to ouperform synthetics? He mentions petro oil many times, but we all know petro isn't hard to beat in lubrication and especially terms of emmissions. Petroleum oil is filthy. But to say it outperforms synthetics is a little far fetched.



I do however look forward to Bio-diesel, which because of lobbyists probably wont happen for a long time.



Bob

 

[illflem]

John, jojoba ( I've got a spell check or I wouldn't get it either)oil was going to be the one to replace sperm whale oil in the 70's, never followed up where it went. Rape seed and canola are basically the same thing. Canola is rape that was develped though plant breeding to make the oil edible to humans years ago by Canadian researchers, hence the Can in the name. The Montana State researcher I talked with said that the killer combo is using bio-diesel with canola motor oil. The canola lube oil retained all it's lube qualities after 20k miles in a PSD and looked brand new, The bio-diesel produces no soot to color the oil and eliminates emissions almost entirely. Downside to bio-diesels and lube oils is that it takes about one acre to produce 55 gallons of canola oil. The US currently uses around 3 billion gallons of motor oil per year. There is enough farmland to produce this amount without cutting into food producing acreage at all, but when you start using it for fuel ALL the current farmland in the US will only supply 7% of the annual diesel usage. That is the side of the bio-fuel debate you rarely hear.





Bob, the sites I linked to are a few years old, more research has since been done, try this one www.agromgt.com . Remember this still developing technology, much of the research has yet to be released.

 

[TwoSlick]

The problem with this stuff is the same problem that occurs with most of the biodegradable hydraulic fluids - the cold temp properties are very poor. Stick some cooking oil in your freezer overnight and you'll see what i mean!



You will be hard pressed to beat the high/low temp properties of a PAO/Ester based synthetic engine lube. For anyone that is interested, some of the recent issues of Lubricants World magazine have had several articles that discuss the growth in the biodegradable lubricants market ... .



I follow this stuff pretty closely and widespread use of these lubes is a long way off ... . Biodiesel is another story entirely - if the price comes down that is really the way to go. Almost no soot in the exhaust or the oil and very high cetane for excellent cold weather performance.



TooSlick

 

[Un-Hemi]

The *only* difference between rapeseed and canola is the name. "rape"seed is feministically incorrect.

 

[JohnE]

I was told that canola is the oil pressed from rapeseed. And yes, canola is an acronym (Canadian oil something) for marketing purposes.



I looked into making my own vegetable fuel supplement. Not as simple as simply adding to your tank as one should process it to remove the glycerins.

Bioiesel has winter problems, too. I saw the cloud & gel temps are raised.



Cincinatti started a federally funded project to run bio-diesel in their metro bus fleet.



I think the jojoba (I was trying for the fonetic spelling of hohoba and hit y instead of h) bit the dust. I haven't seen any products in years. I should have kept that jug, but I was pressed for space &amp; time in the move.



Minnesota has been subsidizing ethanol production for years. Now they battle cry is bio-diesel (to again give out massive subsidies?).



Bio-mass is the thing! I read on a dairy operation somewhere in MN that started bio-mass to help deal with the massive amount of manure produced by the herd. It works! They ran a gen-set that produced all of the electricity needed to run the operation and sell a bunch of surplus to the utility grid, plus enough methane to heat the operation.



Bob;

My neighbor subscribed to the journal. I think it was to give him something to rant about. Something about the paper always got him going.

 

[illflem]

From http://www.canola-council.org/production/thetruth.html



Q: Where does canola oil come from--is canola oil rapeseed oil?

A: No. Canola oil comes from canola seed. Canola is the name given to a very healthy oil that was developed from rapeseed. But it is not rapeseed oil and has vastly different fatty acid and other properties than rapeseed oil. Canola was developed using traditional plant breeding methods to remove undesirable qualities in rapeseed. In terms of their properties, canola oil is as different from rapeseed oil as olive oil is as different from corn oil.

 

[JohnE]

Bill;



Good link! Thanks for calrifying the name thing.



-John