Weight Charts

[Cliffman]

Looking in my manual I can't seem to find the weight chart for my 2018 3500 Dually Mega Cab 4WD. Looking for the dry weight of my truck. Thanks in advance!

 

[TJJEEPER]

I don't recall any manual having the dry weight of the vehicle in the manual. Too many variables with the optional equipment adding varying amounts of weight. Truck scales are the only way to get a realistic weight IMHO.

 

[lpennock]

Why not just take it to the CAT scale? Only costs $10-15 and then you have accurate numbers. The tables are usually optimistic at best. Here is the measured unloaded numbers for my 2018 4x4 CCLB.
Front 5660
Rear 3500
Total 9160

That was with a 230lb driver and a 260lb passenger and a full tank of fuel.

 

[Cliffman]

Why not just take it to the CAT scale? Only costs $10-15 and then you have accurate numbers. The tables are usually optimistic at best. Here is the measured unloaded numbers for my 2018 4x4 CCLB.
Front 5660
Rear 3500
Total 9160

That was with a 230lb driver and a 260lb passenger and a full tank of fuel.

Just trying to same some time but I guess that's what I'll have to do. I'm trying to calculate my trailer weight by deducting the truck weight from the total weight from this weight sheet. I'm not looking for exact numbers. plus or minus a 300 lbs is fine with me.

 

[Wiredawg]

I saved this 2017 Towing Guide that DOES list the base weight on my truck; I'll look for the complete for 2018. Buried somewhere on Ram website:

Both towing AND weight slip ARE better!

Try this link:
https://www.ramtrucks.com/content/dam/fca-brands/na/ramtrucks/en_us/towing/2018 Ram 2500.pdf
whoops, that's for 2500s.

This one for you!

https://www.ramtrucks.com/content/dam/fca-brands/na/ramtrucks/en_us/towing/2018 Ram 3500.pdf

 

[gsbrockman]

Looking in my manual I can't seem to find the weight chart for my 2018 3500 Dually Mega Cab 4WD. Looking for the dry weight of my truck. Thanks in advance!

Look at your door sticker, unless you’ve added a HUGE amount of crap to your truck.

In this instance....my previous 2014 RAM 3500 Crew Cab 4WD weighed 8,440 lbs

(14,000-5,560) = 8,440

 

[Wiredawg]

Cliff,

Thought I would do this for you:

Cheers, Ron

 

[EZeis]

Why not just take it to the CAT scale? Only costs $10-15 and then you have accurate numbers. The tables are usually optimistic at best. Here is the measured unloaded numbers for my 2018 4x4 CCLB.
Front 5660
Rear 3500
Total 9160

That was with a 230lb driver and a 260lb passenger and a full tank of fuel.

Interesting. Is your truck 2500 or 3500?
My 18 3500 SRW tradesman 4wd long bed CC with some options and the Aisin and rear auto air leveling. It scaled at 9180 with 3 adults and a b&w 5th wheel hitch. Fuel and def tanks full. Line-x premium spray in. Mopar wheel to wheel SS steps. Mopar HD rubber mud flaps.

5460 steer
3720 drive
Total 9180

Earl

 

[Cummins12V98]

Bottom line weigh your axles ready to tow full fuel and passengers. Forget the 14kGVWR it's there for Licensing and Insurance purposes. Be sure to have tonnage to cover your trucks loaded weight. I run full RAWR of 9,750#, the fact is it's impossible to run the SAE RAWR and NOT be over the 14k since my unloaded front axle weight is about 5,250#.

Many DOT scales can be used.

 

[Wiredawg]

Cliff,

Of ALL the posts here, DID you get an answer for your question on "what is the BASE weight of your truck?"

Just say'n,

EDIT: note at the bottom SAE J2807 criteria are listed. Pretty nice chart!

Ron

 

[Wayne M.]

Geez they’ve gotten heavy! Mine is 67xx with me in it and a fiberglass cap on back.

 

[EZeis]

Cliff,

Of ALL the posts here, DID you get an answer for your question on "what is the BASE weight of your truck?"

Just say'n,

Ron

Would be impossible to answer. Every truck weights definitely. That's why they don't really publish base weights. They use to publish base weight and what some options weighed on the bodybuilder site. Haven't been on there in 10 or more years.
Best and really only method to know your empty weight is to scale it. Only takes a few minutes and costs about 12 bucks and includes a second weigh as well.


Earl

 

[Wiredawg]

Would be impossible to answer. Every truck weights definitely. That's why they don't really publish base weights. They use to publish base weight and what some options weighed on the bodybuilder site. Haven't been on there in 10 or more years.
Best and really only method to know your empty weight is to scale it. Only takes a few minutes and costs about 12 bucks and includes a second weigh as well.


Earl

Earl, I think it's possible to get a good rough order of magnitude. That's why they ACTUALLY DO publish the base weights of the trucks. I pulled those charts from the Ram website.

I believe if you read the footnotes, you can get within 10 pounds of the actual base weight. How do I know that? They say they round to the next highest 10 lbs. That's why they break out by transmission, cab, bed length, etc... as these are biggest differences in weight.

FYI, I've been using these charts for years in deciding which truck would be my next tow beast.

Great conversation.

Cheers, Ron

 

[lpennock]

Interesting. Is your truck 2500 or 3500?
My 18 3500 SRW tradesman 4wd long bed CC with some options and the Aisin and rear auto air leveling. It scaled at 9180 with 3 adults and a b&w 5th wheel hitch. Fuel and def tanks full. Line-x premium spray in. Mopar wheel to wheel SS steps. Mopar HD rubber mud flaps.

5460 steer
3720 drive
Total 9180

Earl

Crew Cab Long Bed 3500 Dually with Air Suspension and Aisin.

 

[EZeis]

Earl, I think it's possible to get a good rough order of magnitude. That's why they ACTUALLY DO publish the base weights of the trucks. I pulled those charts from the Ram website.

I believe if you read the footnotes, you can get within 10 pounds of the actual base weight. How do I know that? They say they round to the next highest 10 lbs. That's why they break out by transmission, cab, bed length, etc... as these are biggest differences in weight.

FYI, I've been using these charts for years in deciding which truck would be my next tow beast.

Great conversation.

Cheers, Ron

Earl, I think it's possible to get a good rough order of magnitude. That's why they ACTUALLY DO publish the base weights of the trucks. I pulled those charts from the Ram website.

I believe if you read the footnotes, you can get within 10 pounds of the actual base weight. How do I know that? They say they round to the next highest 10 lbs. That's why they break out by transmission, cab, bed length, etc... as these are biggest differences in weight.

FYI, I've been using these charts for years in deciding which truck would be my next tow beast.

Great conversation.

Cheers, Ron

I will scale over those estimates any day. Yep base weights are publish, BUT not in your face and only estimates. It took me a long time to find my GCWR for my truck. They didn't make it easy to find, that's for sure! So that's why I say they don't really publish base weights as they don't put it out there like other things. I had my truck scaled faster than it took me to locate my GCWR on the Ram site. But to each their own. Some like guessing, some like estimates and some like scale numbers. To be honest, I don't know why anyone doesn't scale their truck and loads. It's dirt cheap, quick and easy. Any decent size truck stop will have scales. Truck stops are just about everywhere.


Earl

 

[Wiredawg]

Earl,

Look at my post with chart AND weight ticket. We're not saying different things so much. I use the chart to PICK my truck when LOOKING to buy, Then I configure it as I'm going to travel, load me, the wife, two dogs, 112 gallons diesel, 9 gallons DEF, ~600 lbs of tools, including two 12 ton jack stands, turnover ball hitch, stainless front grill brush guard. The bed the dealer added, soooooo on my 2017 Ram 5500 the following is pretty close. That's what you see on the weight ticket.

Base weight:
Front: 5,143lbs + Rear: 3,549 = 8,683

Weight as configured:
Front: 6,200lbs + Rear: 6,000lbs = 12,200lbs

I'm happy knowing my base numbers AND my loaded numbers.

Cheers, Ron

 

[gsbrockman]

EDIT: note at the bottom SAE J2807 criteria are listed. Pretty nice chart!

Unless you’re Cummins12V98......then one simply blows it off and does what they seem fit.

 

[Wiredawg]

Unless you’re Cummins12V98......then one simply blows it off and does what they seem fit.

Greg,
It wasn't ALL that hard. I imagine you looked at something before purchasing your truck before buying it to ensure it would do what you wanted it to, didn't you?

So this probably reinforces your comment to a point: I pay attention to the numbers because I wanted to stay within ALL the recommended ratings. This is repeat news I've posted before, but I had a perfectly good 09 Ram 4500 that was rated GCWR 26,000 Lbs that I ran approx. 7,000Lbs over that amount. Know the chart existed, I simply went to it to determine which Ram to get to cover ALL my GVWR and GCWR requirements. I'm just saying the base number is good for planning your purchase then addon accessories AND weighing your truck after purchasing it is beneficial for real world loading.

Now, you can't compare me and Ron (Cummins12V98) because we don't agree on interpretation of recommended weight ratings; I'm tighter on my interpretation than he is. He tows about 15.5K on his 14K rated truck towing, but not exceeding axles or tires. Nothing wrong with that, lots of folks do it, including ME in the past on ALL my trucks ('00, '02, and '09) towing heavy. I just changed my perspective on this, but do NOT tell folks they are wrong in their interpretation of such things, I just state what I believe.

Finally, I think Cliffman just wanted to know what the base weight of his truck was and yes the guide I posted is SAE compliant product, not my opinion. And, I'll bet you know the weight (actual or base?) is on the truck shipping document. I'm betting actual.

I still think this is a good discussion... And poor ole Cliffman just asked a simple question and got ALL this.

Cheers, Ron

 

[AH64ID]

Base weights are published in the towing guide. There is even a options weight chart for addition or subtraction on the body builders guide.

My advertised GVW (without adjusting for options) is 4956/3027 for 7983lbs.

As scaled with me in it and 2/3 of a tank it was 5250/3300 for 8550. I’m only 230lbs fully dressed, and probably had a 20lb suitcase, nothing else.

 

[gsbrockman]

@Wiredawg

Your post #7 is more precise than my post #6.

With that being said.......and since Cliffman did not ask for EXACT weight, I thought the easy thing (prior to post #7) was to consult that door sticker. The door sticker reflects the weight of the truck as it was shipped from Saltillo by FCA.

And........poor Cliffman.......