When are we going to get some Relief on Fuel Prices?

[CAgnoli]

I'm getting pretty upset, pretty darn fast. Today, I drove by a fuel station, as they were raising the price from 1. 99 per gallon to 2. 05. 6 cents in one damn day?



How can the big rigs afford to get product to market? When is a government official actually going to "Order an investigation" , and actually follow through on it? Chuck the smuck shumer has "ordered investigations on fuel prices" three times this year. NEVER REPORTED ANY RESULTS!!!



I'm getting sick of giving my money to the fuel station instead of the restaurants, and malls.



Sorry for the VENT, BUT when I bought my truck in April of this year fuel prices were the following:



Mobil on Rt 60 next to Route 86 $1. 68 gallon

Indian Reservation in Irving, NY $1. 58 gallon

OFF Road Diesel $1. 23 Gallon.



Today:

Mobil on Rt 60 near Route 86 $2. 05 gallon

Indian Reservation in Irving, NY $1. 79 Gallon

OFF Road Diesel $1. 22 Gallon.



Now tell me that off road diesel is cheaper just because of the taxes?? I don't see any new taxes on fuel lately? And the price has gone DOWN.



Thougths???? (I know you fella's in CA are paying 2. 6x a gallon, but it hurts here regardless)

 

[mattymac]

Man I would even like to be paying what you are, were at 2. 39 and climbing. I think we will get a relief in fuel prices when the Furd 6. 0 runs right.

 

[NIsaacs]

The station where I fuel went from 193. 9 to 215. 9 overnight. I fueled at the cheepie station and paid 203. 9. Up on I-40 in Winslow at Flying J or Loves in Joe City is usually 20-25 cents less. I remember back in 1970 when I worked at an AllisChalmers Tractor dealership, I used to walk across the street to a Mobil station for Kerosene. We used it in our steam cleaner, it was 20 cents a gallon. I don't think my cost of living pay has keeped up with the fuel prices of today





"NICK"

 

[jcarey]

I heard on the news a few weeks ago that gas prices could hit $3. 00/gal by next year. If so, then bio-diesel will be cheaper @ $2. 50 a gallon around here.



My hope is that as more bio-diesel starts to be used then production will increase, distribution will improve, and hopefully the price will come down.



At least we have that alternative. What do the gassers have?



Jim

 

[MLee]

Winter is coming, and they can make more profit by re-labeling it as fuel oil, so we get to take in the patute again. when was the last time you seen fuel oil used????? majarity of the country uses Nat-Gas.

Marv.

 

[HENCHR]

I'm upset with the fuel prices too but suddenly don't feel so bad when I see what some other peopel are paying in other parts of the country. Depending on where I get it, its runs around 1. 78 to 1. 85 a gallon. Now fuel oil thats a different story, most of the homes around my area are still oil heat, I think we just paid 2. 05 a gallon to have our tank filled, prices will get worse though, especially as the weather gets colder. I have noticed gasoline is going down in price around here though, 1. 67 for regular, so maybe there is hope that diesel will be following.

 

[RustyJC]

From a global, long term perspective, worldwide demand for crude oil is going up faster than supply. Because of speculative commodity trading, hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico, political instability in the Middle East, change of seasons and resultant change in product mix/demand, etc. , etc. , there will always be short term fluctuations in the price of any given hydrocarbon fuel. That doesn't change the overall outlook, however. The law of supply and demand is at work on a worldwide basis - that means prices will trend higher so long as demand outpaces supply.



Rusty

 

[RKerner]

Europe and China are more lucrative markets right now

From a global, long term perspective, worldwide demand for crude oil is going up faster than supply. Because of speculative commodity trading, hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico, political instability in the Middle East, change of seasons and resultant change in product mix/demand, etc. , etc. , there will always be short term fluctuations in the price of any given hydrocarbon fuel. That doesn't change the overall outlook, however. The law of supply and demand is at work on a worldwide basis - that means prices will trend higher so long as demand outpaces supply.



Rusty

There was an article in a local paper here and the message was that Europe and China are better markets for diesel as more money can be made there. That shortens the supply here and the price goes up. Europe possibly still subsidizes diesel, hence all the micro turbo diesel cars, which ain't helping our pocket book any. Seasonal changes used to be a nickel or a dime but now we are being conditioned to 20-30 cent swings within weeks which smells of profiteering. It surely ain't cause of harvest here - farmers can't get in the 3 fields that have crops cause it's too wet. The other acreage has been frosted (twice), flooded out or not even planted. Like Rusty says, basic economics will keep the price of diesel high. If we could just get all the powerjoke drivers to just give up on diesels altogether, then all that wasted fuel would be available for us.

 

[exfuzz01]

We will see lower prices at the fuel pumps when "pigs fly"... ... ... .

 

[jrobinson2]

Was quoted $1. 65 today for 9000 gallons of RED Last spring paid $. 78, I burn 290 gallons a day just in my irrigation pumps :{ When we were enduring california's electricity crisis we thought we were real smart still having a few diesels but the electric pumps are WAY cheaper right now :{

Jared

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Well this just really blows!! I am leaving on a 10,000 mile road trip back east and was looking forward to actually paying less than $2. 00/gallon once I got away from the West. Dream on!



Gas has been creeping down for awhile here, while diesel inches upward. Diesel is about $2. 13 and gas is $1. 97 around here.



Vaughn

 

[tURBOdIEZEl]

i agree on the diesel going up and the gas going down. generally speaking diesel is ALOTs cheaper then unleaded gasoline. drove by the local HESS station yesterday and noticed diesel jumped 13 cents in one day (2. 09) and about lost it. there blaming it on not being able to pump crude oil out of the gulf because of the last hurricane. i say bring on the red fuel.

 

[MLee]

Vaughn;

Do a price check on one of the gas price watch sites, Flying J or Loves, fuel gets cheaper when you leave the western seven states. Texas, when we went there had the best prices, average a $1. 50 Gal. , last spring. I think the east cost is around two. If you watch as you drive you'll find all different prices.

Marv.

 

[Truckie]

Diesel here in Pgh has gone up considerable in the last week and a half. It went from $1. 93 to $2. 05 over night and stayed there for a day or so and now were at $2. 15 a gallon. Gas here has been getting cheaper, or at least have stayed stable.

Seems like since last week when we got flooded here they have been jacking the price of fuel here.

I hate to say it may be time to buy a little VW diesel or go and get a little 4 banger that's is going to get 20+miles in the city.

We need to stop sending our oil from Alaska over seas and keep it here for our selfs.

I remember a few years ago, maybe 2, 3 that I believe it was Exxon that was operating all the way in the black, and had no det at all except the payroll of employees, and there were a few other fuel co. out there also. They were making smoething like a 200% profit on fuel then.





MIKE

 

[RustyJC]

We need to stop sending our oil from Alaska over seas and keep it here for our selfs.

Mike,



The reason Alaskan oil is sold to Japan is that the West Coast doesn't have the refining capacity to handle it, and supertankers can't pass through the Panama Canal.



With all respect, this is a non-issue. Let me illustrate with an oversimplification. We sell 1MM barrels of oil to Japan at market price. We then turn around and use the proceeds to buy 1MM barrels of oil from Venezuela at market price for delivery to Gulf Coast refineries. Net-net, it's a wash.



Rusty

 

[Sojourner]

Don't count on any relief. Time to develop alternatives. Fortunately diesel engines run on vegetable oil, Rudolf Diesel's original intention.

 

[Murle]

Guy's, the real reason for the high prices is because of the tree huggers.

Let me explain.

There is lots and lots of of oil in this world. There are not enough refineries. It is supply and demand. There has been no new refineries built in nearly 30 years. Think about it. There is more demand than the refinery people can produce.



The tree huggers will not allow any new refineries to be built. They raise too much stink about new one's being built.

 

[hagar]

If it were more demand than can be supplied then stations would be running out, that isn't happening, I'm on the road all the time, haven't seen a station out of fuel in years, talk to the tanker drivers on the cb, they have no trouble getting filled for their deliveries, oil companies are reporting record profits, think about it.

 

[RustyJC]

If it were more demand than can be supplied then stations would be running out, that isn't happening.

Actually, the law of supply and demand says that when demand outstrips supply, prices will rise until demand drops into balance with supply. That's what we see happening.



Rusty

 

[ppfd]

Fuel here in WV, Ohio is $2. 06 a gallon. Regular gas is $1. 86. Makes me wonder if buying a diesel is the right move for me.