I believe I have found my answer. The Cummins is tops in rear wheel torque in stock form from 1800 to 2800 RPMs and I am sure it is better down to 1500 RPMs where you should shift down. In Bombed form the Cummins is a little behind the Chevy above 2000 RPMs but a little better under 2K. The Ford with an EZ beats everybody hands down. I wonder just how hot the EZ is in the Ford. I will probably bomb in a year after a year when my warranty runs out and all the bugs are worked out of the new boxes. Speaking of bugs, the Ford people seem to be going through a lot of growing pains if you check over on their site. If the Dodge dealers were doing a good PDI and topping off the fluids, there would not be many DOA dodges out there.