Which credit card to get?

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Ok, time for my first "real" credit card. I had one when I went to college, with a small limit, and procrastinated paying it off, ended up owing about three times the limit amount just in the stuff I purchased plus late fees and such. It was a Capital One and got it paid off a few months ago.



Now I need another. Ok, not need, want a higher limit card for other things, namely clutch and washer/dryer. Currently I save up, then spend it. But if I were able to put it on a card I could just pay the monthly payment and be done with it.



As far as the monthly payment goes, what determines that amount? The card limit, card type, and my credit history?



My credit is not perfect but have been pre-approved for a few Citi Bank and Master Cards.



I am only 23 and don't want to get into credit card trouble again, but I would like a card to purchase high-dollar things I need, and re-establish my credit.



Thanks!
 
Do yourself a big favor and don't finance purchases via credit cards. I've been down that road a couple times and have gotten myself up to my eyeballs in debt. I'm a good ways down the road to getting myself out of it again. If you want to reestablish credit get one and make purchases on it that you can pay off completely when the bill comes. I now don't buy anything unless I can pay cash for it. I do put a lot of stuff on 1 credit card that I have but the bill gets paid as soon as it arrives and I don't put it on there unless I have the cash on hand to pay it off. I do it for air miles for free tickets. If you have the restraint to not finance anything you will have far more stuff and money in the bank 5 years down the road than if you take the quick fix get it now pay for it later route. JMHO from someone who's been down the path and took the wrong turn.
 
Yep Nick, pretty much what Steve said, if you can't pay the bill off each month trust us, you DO NOT need it!! I only use mine for stuff I order on the phone and when the bill arrives each month, bingo, one check pays off the balance. Granted i have several cards totaling damn near $100k in available credit :eek: but keep them stashed away. Had credit score of over 900 last time I checked!!!!! Oo. :p
 
Hey Nick, a simple rule of thumb that I go by is if you don't have the cash then how will you pay for it with credit. I only use mine for fuel every week and emergencies and I always pay it off before the 25th of the month. If you do decide to get a card I suggest going through your credit union or bank whichever you might use. I like this option because of the convinience of on-line banking. Also it seems like they have the best fixed rates.
 
Its a double edged sword. Since you need credit cards for car rentals. I was a big cash only guy for many years and when I needed a loan I was told "NO" since I had no credit history. And since I've been using my debit card for the past 4 years I haven't helped myself. But the convience of a Visa/Commerce debit card is nice especially when one is unemployed. It neither helps nor hinders my credit rating. A great way to develop a good credit rating is to take a loan from your bank and pay it back. That means not spending the loan and paying the full interest on it and never paying it off early. They don't want you paying loans off early since they lose the interest payment and that makes you a bad person too. JMHO.
 
Probably the easiest way to build solid credit is to use a credit card for things you would normally pay cash for, and then use that cash to pay off the balance every month. I use a credit card for "pay-at-the-pump" whenever I buy gas/diesel fuel. It's easier than paying cash because I don't have to walk into the store and stand in line, plus it helps maintain my good credit. Certain credit cards will even give you a discount on their brand of fuel (BP, Shell, etc).



- Mike
 
Get a card that will work from you. REI has a card that pays 1% cash back yearly on every purchase. I get $600. 00 plus back each year. I charge everything. The trick is pay it off every month. If you can't pay it off, you can't afford it. Never have a balance.



Cary :cool:
 
Capitol One/ Miles One... I charge it up every month and pay off the balance every month, that way I don't pay any finance fees... when I need to fly somewhere or pay for a hotel room, it is free... as long as you have enough miles. I have one in my name, the wife has a different account in her name, we use it for everything, gas groceries, etc... I love to fly for free, plus you get to pick any airline!
 
i've got 2 cards myself. a dividend visa card, which gives me 1% cash back at the end of the year and has no fee's. and i also have a dividend platinum [costco] amex card. it gives me 2% costco credit at the years end and also has no fee's. i use my CC's for everything. and i pay them off in full every month.
 
I have a MC that I just use for gas/diesel, emergencies, and phone/internet orders. Balance is paid in full every month. But it doesn't help my credit much sense it's still under my parents name (but I pay the bill). Just haven't changed over to my own since I got out of college in May.



Mine doesn't give me cash back but instead the 1% goes to The Civil War Preservation Trust to preserve Civil War battlefields and other Civil War related things.



You can get introuble in a hurry when ya don't pay off the bill each month. The min. payment for mine one time was only like $15 bucks for $400-$500 worth of charges. The fiance charges well eat you alive.



And on the loans, don't pay them off more than 3 months early. Anything earlier bankers frown on (but they'll still take your money). My dad's been a loan officer in banks for the last 25-30 years.



Nathan
 
I got along fine with out one of those nasty suckers until I was 45... . lets see that was about 4, ah... no... more like 7 years ago. :)



Sort of became a necessity ordering things over the internet. Also handy way to pay for fuel on a road trip.



I got one through my credit union. That way I can transfer funds online. Best advice is to pay off the balance monthly and you won't have a problem. And they are not like Lays potatoe chips - one is enough. :D



Edit: Oops, that potato. Dan Quayle would be proud of me. :-laf
 
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Personal experience speaking... . just use one..... get the best low fixed rate.



Ive got 3 and I havent used 2 for a year... . trying to get em paid off.



Its a trap if you dont watch yourself. Just be careful. Im only 26 and wish I had done things a little differently already. I know I'll be cutting up 2 for sure when they're paid off... .



oh yeah... . Im 12k in debt on those things... . that should tell you something! Finance charges will eat you alive. Wish I could say I spent it on parties and ****, but most of it was medical and insurance stuff. still sucks!!!! Never again! Also dont trust the medical community anymore either.



Just my . 02 cents!! :rolleyes:



Jeff
 
Also, watch out for the advertised APR. mine was advertised at 5. 99%, but when i got it, i saw that it was really 14. 99% :eek: . I started investigating and saw that there was some fine print that said with credit approval. Being 19, i had no credit history. But since i never carry a balance, as said b4 paid off before the 25th, it doesn't really matter. I'll carry it until i can get some credit built up.

Got it through my bank which makes for ease of debt payment and checking all account balances on one site.

Forrest
 
I am with everybody here that would strongly recommend against using a credit card for anything but emergencies. If you can't pay it off today what makes you so sure that you will be able to do it tomorrow? Save up the money and then buy what you want with cash. It makes the purchase so much nicer.



Check out the local thrift stores, I got a great deal on a washer and dryer set at the ARC and paid cash :D
 
Nick:

It is a good idea to have a card. I was always a cash guy until I started having to travel. Try getting a rental car without one. Even some hotels wont give you a room without one. Sometimes emergencies do happen and you need more than you have access to at that point in time or even have in the bank (ie truck breaks down out of town and they only take local checks repair is 1000. 00 and you only have 800 in the bank so a cash and check card doesnt do you much good). To build your credit you need to use it. Even if you just use it once a month for a gas fill up and pay it off at the end of the month. Also to help you get line increases and to further improve your credit history save your cash for big purchases then put it on the card and pay it off at the end of the month(then you also get to reap some card benfits ie miles, rebate etc). Get a loan from the bank (even a small one, the interest rate will be sky high for a personal/signature loan for 12 months but if it is a small loan 500-1000 it wont amount to that much) put the cash in the bank make payments for six months and then pay it off. When I was your age my credit was in the dumper but within just a couple years of concerted effort it came around quite nicely. Use the card to build your credit not use it for credit if that makes any sense. As time goes by get another card even if you never use it. Part of the score is how much credit you have vs how much of it you are using. The more credit you have and use to a certain point, the easier it is to improve the score/get more credit. Which is somewhat ironic because most people dont want any balances on thier cards and if they used it all they would never be able to make the payments. However as previous posters have said be darn careful not to let a balance build up. Use it as a tool not a way to suddenly be able to purchase things you dont have the money for.



I just read the other day that the average family has 15k of balance on their credit cards.



As far as minumum payments different banks use different formulas but I think the general rule of thumb is 2% of the balance. So if you have a 10k balance your minimum payment is 200. 00. But of that 200 "x" amount is interest/finance charge so you are only paying say 75 or so on the balance each month. Making minimum payments is a sure way to finacial ruin.
 
Get one or two - a gas card with a low limit - and a credit card. Use them wisely.



My 27 year old son qualified to purchase a $152,000 house. He has an excellent credit history based on advice from his Dad. His college educated wife has absolutely NO credit history.



My 29 year old daughter shunned her Dad's advice and struggled to finance a $13,000 automobile after making a $3,000 down payment.



Both have good jobs, and my daughter has a college degree.



Periodically get a copy of your credit report and review it extensively. You may be surprised what you find there. You may also be surprised at who looks at your credit report.



Never be late with your payment. Never go over the spending limit. Never pay the minimum. Pay attention to the finance charges. 14-21% finance charges add up quickly. Read the back page on the credit card offers first!



Pay yourself first.



A note: My 55 year old sister lost her house to a flood. She and her husband had always been cash paying people. She has been married to him for 38 years. He had serious surgery that consumed a lot of their cash savings. They needed to borrow money to buy a new house. No credit history. Not enough cash. They were nearly homeless. He is self employed. She works for a small company. They finally obtained a loan. He then had a heart attack - stress related. They are living day-to-day.
 
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strongly recommend against using a credit card for anything but emergencies



that just baffles my mind hearing that. i won't pay cash on anything other than fast food [or something small under $20 like junkfood or groceries]. i use my amex 95% of the time, and the other 5% when they don't take amex, i'll put down the visa. now if you can't pay a card off in full every month, don't get one. but if you can, why not have one? with the dividend cards avalable, you can make money on them. i pay all my bills online for free, and i can arrange to have direct charges for cable, phone etc. put to a credit card. .



even for fuel. there are 2 station i know locally that has a cash discount [$0. 02 per liter off] over 100 liters fuel, but they are sub-par fuel quality there so i never go there.



but as always, everyone is entitled to their own opinions



[joke on]or a little more rude, "arseholes are like opinions, everyone's got them and both of his/hers/yours are full of..... " :-laf [joke off]
 
Steve gave you great advice. I've been fortunate enough to pay off all credit cards and other debt for the most part. All I owe now is my truck and my house. Believe me, it makes a HUGE difference in your level of stress and quality of life.


The best credit card is NONE AT ALL for most people. There are OTHER ways to get credit besides a card. Car loans, small personal loans (signature loans) etc, are will help without the card problems.

Credit card debt is the SINGLE BIGGEST reason why people "can't seem to get ahead". Avoid it like the plague it is.

Conversely, paying off credit card debt is the best "investment" you can make. If you have a balance at 18%, paying it off is like investing money with a GUARANTEED 18% return! You can't beat that!

The answer to your spending desires is SAVINGS. This is a tough one to master. You MUST pay yourself second (second? yes, I'll explain in a bit). If you want something, SAVE FOR IT if it's not a must have.

I suggest that you get a ledger book like they sell at Office Depot and the like. It's an accountant's ledger. Then, make different columns across the top for the different things you'll need to save for.

As an example, my wife and I have 7 or 8 columns of things that we save for. You can anticipate the vast majority of your expenses. But you need savings for those thing you CAN'T foresee as well as those you can. So, your FIRST savings columns is "contingency". This is simply money that you set aside for emergencies-- medical bills, car accident, airfare for a sudden family death, etc...

The other columns we have are based on the things that are important to us. We have a "computer" column where we are saving for a new Mac. We have a "gifts" columns that funds birthday and Christmas presents. We have a "travel" column that pays for gas, hotels, airfare, etc for upcoming trips (like Holiday travel). We have a "baby" column to save for the expenses of having our first kid-- a crib, bottles, changing table, etc. There's presently a "maternity clothing" column because we are having to buy clothing over and above our regular monthly clothing budget. I even have my "truck and tools" column that funds toys for me or my truck. If I want a new truck gizmo, I have to have the money in that column or it must wait.

Keep in mind that your savings account is NOT an investment. If you put the money someplace in hopes of getting interest on it, make SURE that it's liquid-- like a money market account or something. If you want to invest, think long term and look at stock, bonds, and mutual funds, etc.

So you want to allocate your monthly savings based on how you plan on savings 1) for emergencies and 2) saving-to-spend.

So, now you need to do a monthly budget. You'll need some kind of spreadsheet or ledger. You'll have fixed expenses (truck payments, mortgage, whatever) and variable expenses (restaurants, groceries, personal care (haircuts, manicures, whatever) household (cleaning supplies, decoratives, etc), auto (fuel, insurance), utilities, and so on- you get the idea. Everthing you regularly spend money on should be under some kind of category. You'll also want a miscellaneous category just to help the numbers line up.

So when you do your monthly budget, assign dollar values to each of your categories. The fixed expenses are easy. The variable ones you'll have to ballpark. As you go through the month, *save every receipt*. Put the expenses where they belong in each category and keep a running total. You'll be able to tweak the dollar amounts as you go by and see what needs less or more money. If one category goes over, you have to rob Peter to pay Paul. Decide where it's coming from (NOT SAVINGS). Keep in mind that you want to be flexible on this stuff. If you spend more on restaurants, then cut back on other entertainment-- etc. If you can't make a budget to align your income and your spending THEN YOU HAVE BIG PROBLEMS BECAUSE YOU ARE LIVING BEYOND YOUR MEANS AND ARE HEADED TO THE POOR HOUSE.

Finally PAY YOURSELF SECOND. That is designed to stress that savings is VERY important, but not the most important. What's the MOST important??

Give some away. Budget each month for giving money to charity/church/whatever. I suggest 10% because that's what the Bible suggests, but YMMV.

This is the REAL KEY to financial freedom. When you make it the #1 priority to give some away right off the top, you'll experience true freedom. You'll see that money is losing its power over you. You'll see the more important things in life. You'll not only be more generous with your money, but your time and everything else as well. Your quality of life will be infinitely higher and you will be much happier, even living on a little less.

My wife and I made the 10% an inviolate priority even when we were in debt up to our eyeballs. It's paradoxical, but giving away that 10% has been the fastest track to financial freedom.

You won't even miss the money. Yes, if I stop to think about it, I could have bought some PDR twins and still had money left over for KORE suspension and EDMs with the money that is "missing" just this year. But that money is doing more good that it could EVER do had it stayed in my hands. I don't say this to toot my horn so much as to say that you won't miss it, even when compared to what you think you REALLY want. If there's any credit to be had, it's for God's blessing in my life. It's not a give-to-get setup like some preachers would have you believe, but it sometimes turns out that way. The freedom I feel to forgo possessions that I used to be so incredibly tied to is the greatest blessing at all.

I'm lucky enough to have some cool stuff. But if I was all gone tomorrow, it wouldn't shatter me. I'd get along without my CTD or nice speakers or guitar stuff.

THIS is the greatest blessing of all-- to be TRULY free in a free country.

It's worked well for my wife and I, and I'd suggest it can work for anyone.

Justin
 
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