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I,m getting Bills tc & vb installed on the 17th & ordered the 93% tc thinking i dont mind the firmer shifts but was curious which version you guys got & do you wish you,d gotten a higher or lower percentage tc. I ask this because Bill e-mailed me to make sure that was what i really wanted as he said i might find the 93% a little aggressive & tiring on a long term basis. I thought that was what i wanted but am a little confused now. I appreciate his concern & imput & as i only want to do this once i want to get it right the 1st time. I,m empty 80% & 50/50 freeway& surface streets. Thanks in advance for your imput & sorry for the long post. Ian

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2001,2500 q-cab,auto 4x4,4. 10 anti-slip rearend. All options except leather seats. Line-x bed & tool box. Slide-in -removable rack,BFG 295,s ,Fender flares. Westin nerf bars,billet grill & fog inserts. Rancho,9000,s,Isspro gauges,1994 2500 4x4,12 valve,5 speed, bone stock for now.
 
I got the 91% and really like it I would think that would work fine for you, but only you know where you're headed on the trail of BOMB. The truck shifts fine--only thing is that from P to R it's best to shift into N or D first & then into R as going directly from P to R it really clunks, if you do the other you get less clunk--the pressure diff from P to R is the reason as it's greater than P to N or D & then to R, because the N & D pressure is more than the P pressure, which(N & D pressure) is closer to the R pressure. Hope I haven't confused you, but this is my observation which Stefan of DTT verified. I'm not sure if this would be exaggerated or not with the 93%--this is the only quirk in the system and you'll be amazed what a diff the DTT pkg makes--well worth it--chris

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chris sutton
1999 2500 24v qcab longbed 4x4 red sport w/ all the options 'cept plow pkg, 4:10 detroit locker in rear & front ARB,
5" skyjacker lift w/ 35" BFG MT's on 16. 5x9. 75 Weld rims, black smittybilt step bars, black 3 pc. bug persuader,
black lumber rack, camel leather int. w/ mb quartz spkrs and JL Audio twin 10"sub stealth box under rear seat , PE EZ, DTT vb & tc, mag hy-tec transmission pan,
red magview diff covers front & back, SPA pyro/boost&fuel pres/oil temp on "A" pillar & coming soon: big injectors, HX 40 massaged, red L&L ladder bars, turbo temp monitor ,
4" Jardine exhaust, Holley fuel pump, upgraded fuel lines and PE box tweaked--the above is a big fat lie I really own a totally stock RAM
 
treeman , you may want to reconsider that TC , i have the 91% , will have the 93% installed this weekend . the 93% will give you a harder shift than the 91% , and the 91 hits pretty good . you may want to try and hook up with someone local that has the 91 and go for a ride , there aren't very many , 1 i believe , that has the 93% TC other than myself . i drive mine 95% unloaded , tow rarely and make an occasional pass down the strip.
 
TREEMAN,

I have Bill's 91% convertor. Shift quality is a personal preference, but I wouldn't consider my shifts overly firm at all. I would like to try the 93%. If you don't like your 93% we could trade. #ad


-Chris
 
I have had the 93% installed for 2 weeks now. I rarely ever tow as well, and I like the firmness of the TC and VB combination from DTT. No regrets whatsoever on the 93% TC, as the truck really hooks up and moves in the lower gears. My hats off to Bill K on a great product!!
 
I have the 91%, it works very well for daily driving and towing. The 93% would naturally be more harsh, and being that efficient, very tight on takeoffs when towing.
If you want to dragrace, I would think the 87 or the 91 would be the better choice. But these are designed for towing, right!

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Fred Swanson
Co-Owner
Canyon State Components, LLC
www.canyonstatecomponents.com

'00 QC,SB,4x4,Auto,3. 54 w/LSD,Trailer Package, Tow Package, DTT's VB & TC
 
I have the 91% and totally agree with Mopar-Muscle and CSCPusher.

Just as an FYI (this is info that Bill K gave me)... from a dead stop if take your foot off of the brake pedal and just let the truck take off, it will cruise at an estimated 7. 5 mph. This is no joke either, I can turn into my housing complex, and without touching my go pedal, my truck will drive me home and go up my driveway with no problems. Actually there are 2 turns that I have to apply my brakes to slow down, and my truck just continues on it's marry way.

Bill K Rocks!!!!

Kev
 
Treeman

As you can see from the variety of sets ups, guys different applications,and driving habits preferences vary.

The dodge ram truck is the most unique vehicle i have ever had the opportunity to work with. In the 20 years or so i have been in this business,i have worked on everything from a Mercedes to a blown alcohol dragster, from school busses to small pick up trucks, i always knew what the customer wanted and needed based on the vehicle they were driving. It is pretty easy setting up a caddilac because only a certain type of customer would buy a Caddilac.

These Dodge rams are so versatile that we are constantly challenged to fine tune the perfect trans set up for the customer power upgrades & driving habbits.
We cannot even use age as a common denominator when tuning these packages, as Mr. Wolf from Texas has proved me wrong.

Here is a sensible man, well educated , tows a heavy trailer, coercing his other half that he really needs more power so he can tow that trailer for her.

Now if he sees a ford behind him, in front of him or any where in the vacinity of him his foot automatically goes into drag racing mode. Now did i mention that is with the trailer on or off.

I do smile when i think of him, you gotta love him, and having made a trip to texas, most of the trucks i saw on the road were Fords.

So how do we decide what is best for your application. We have to know the truth, for so long customers for warranty reasons when purchasing products for their Dodges felt it was necessary to be very vague on their upgrades and intentions.

With our company it is the opposite, the more we know about you and the performance products you have or intend to add the better we can calibrate your transmission products.

Please dont base your decision on 91% being less than 93% so the 93% must be better.

My reasoning for the 91 in your application was because of the 410 gear ratio.
The 410 gear ratio shifts firm naturally, and with the 91 would be a good agressive combination for you. The 93 with the 410 gear ration will produce very firm shifts.

Again,it is ultimately your personal choice but we will work with you to achieve what you want.

Bill Kondolay
Diesel Transmission Technology
 
TREEMAN, I have the first production 93% DTT TC and love it! HOWEVER, I will be the first to admit that it isn't for everyone. Harsh side effects such as semi-severe clunking while going into Park or harsh engagement while going from ANY Drive gear to Reverse or vice versa are some of the idiosyncracies that come with the 93% TC. Again, I love mine and its efficiency however, I fully understand why 99% of all DTT customers go with their 91% TC. I believe Stefan (Kondolay) and I are about the only ones that really like the 93% TC... I suspect Mopar-muscle will too after he installs his this weekend (we've emailed each other regarding the 93% TC just after I had mine installed... he is fully aware of all the idiosyncracies). I also see where BigCarl64 likes his 93% TC too. Also, I don't believe you would want to mate the 93% TC to a relatively stock Cummins anyway.

Another thing TREEMAN, if you are going from an OE TC and VB to a DTT 93% TC and VB (more on the VB selection later), you will probably think the 93% TC is just too much! I went from a total BD setup to the DTT setup (not from OE to DTT 93)... believe me, drive Bill's Ram first and then make your final selection. I am sure Darin will have two different VBs prepped (one for each VB) when you arrive (I'm assuming you are having DTT install them).

In earlier posts (different threads), I stated I had either a "Medium" or "Firm" DTT VB. When I spoke with Bill the other day he told me they had prepared a specially modified "Livestock" VB for me as either of the other two would have produced EXTREMELY HARSH shifts in addition to exaggerating the aforementioned idiosyncracies common to the 93% TC.

Good luck with your selection... you can't beat DTT components or their customer service! #ad


Strick-9, which DTT VB do you have? After reading the above you may want to change VBs if you elect to go with the 93% TC.

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John Treibel
'98. 5 2500 QC 4x4 Sport, Glasstite Vision II, 285 BFG A/Ts on M/T Challengers, Warn 4X Boards, Mopar fender flares & tow hooks, NW Custom s/s-rubber mud flaps and accs. , Mag-Hytec diff. cover & trans. pan, Edelbrock IAS shocks, Reese Titan V hitch, SPA gauges (3), Dynamat, '00 Sport grille and headlights/PIAA Super White bulbs, PIAA Dual Sport 900 aux. lights, BD exh. brake, Amsoil Dual Remote Bypass, Optima Yellow Tops, DD3s and DD TTPM, Aeroquip AQP braided s/s fuel hoses, Banks High-Ram intake manifold and 14 cm2 turbine housing w/Big Head wastegate actuator, ATS 3-piece exh. man. , Banks 4" dia. s/s exh. sys. , DTT 93% TC, DTT custom tuned VB, BD modified trans. front pump (enhanced by DTT), Air Bulldog induction hood (with NACA ducts), plus MANY other trick modifications

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Thanks guys for the replys,i,ve changed my order & am gettiing the 91%. I drove Bills truck a while a ago & liked the way his shifted & thought his was the 93% ,but was mistaken. Your probably right about the jump from stock to 93% as being a bit harsh,& i,d probably get used to it but i think the 91% will be more suited to the driving conditions i encounter. Cant wait to get it in though,8 days & counting!
Ian

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2001,2500 q-cab,auto 4x4,4. 10 anti-slip rearend. All options except leather seats. Line-x bed & tool box. Slide-in -removable rack,BFG 295,s ,Fender flares. Westin nerf bars,billet grill & fog inserts. Rancho,9000,s,Isspro gauges,1994 2500 4x4,12 valve,5 speed, bone stock for now.
 
i'll plead poverty (not far off, anyway) and ask that anyone "upgrading" from a 91% to the 93% will find a willing buyer here (ME!) for said 91%.
 
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