I'm not punking anyone, but if I do buy a truck new or not it's not staying stock. DEF, EGR's, DPF's are all harmful to diesels no matter how good there making them, I am going to run this truck for a long time and don't want that crap on there. Just because it's stock doesn't mean it's better look at the 6.0's they were junk stock. Put money in them and they might run not that these are any relation to those. I pull a lot and stocks boring, warentees are getting to strict now any days.