ZF Powerline for 2025 RAM HD Diesel

[Grumpy8811]

More rumor and speculation:

https://www.stellpower.com/news-2024/refreshed-2025-ram-2500-and-3500-heavy-duty-pickups-are-coming/

How many want a new 7.2l Cummins?

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not me.

my 6.7 with the 68RFE has enough oomph for me to do what I need to do
so unless I hit the lottery and money becomes no object I intend to stick with my current truck
until I am on a walker.

 

[Grumpy8811]

More rumor and speculation:


I hear in 2027/28 Cummins wants to try an electric-heated DPF too for EPA 2027 rules.

...

in the early 90's my employer participated in a emissions project and we had 5 machines equipped with a Donaldson Particulate Trap as the dpf was called thenm.
Donadson Trap used 2 DPF's with electric coils to cook off the soot.. so it isn't a new idea...

 

[Diesel85]

in the early 90's my employer participated in a emissions project and we had 5 machines equipped with a Donaldson Particulate Trap as the dpf was called thenm.
Donadson Trap used 2 DPF's with electric coils to cook off the soot.. so it isn't a new idea...

There are also DPFs that use microwave/RF technology to burn off the soot too. I wonder which way they are really going to go.

I certainly don't want to be the guinea pig.

One thing about the 7.2l, if there will be such an animal, I hope it ends up in buses, vocational trucks, etc prior to us getting it. Those vehicles get beat up real hard and that is better than any lab testing.

 

[AH64ID]

Cummins is developing a 7.2L, but not for Ram. The ‘25’s 6.7 is supposed to be different, but still a 6.7.

 

[Diesel85]

Thank you to @Signal73 for posting the RAM order guides... here's a link to his thread:

2025 Ram order guides.

Looks like one Cummins engine option (6.7L I6 CUMMINS TURBO DIESEL ENG (ETM)) for both the 2500/3500, but the build sheet just states AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION (DFM) for the diesel option.

The suspense is killing me.

 

[Grumpy8811]

who plans on buying a new truck?

 

[wyosteve]

I'll be waiting for the info and to see one 'live'!

 

[tron1959]

3rd gear won’t work that slow, too few of rpms. It’s too slow for 2nd to lock even.

You can use ERS to lock the trans into any of the 6 gears.

The ERS only selects the highest available gear. The transmission will select lower gears as load and speed dictate.

 

[AH64ID]

The ERS only selects the highest available gear. The transmission will select lower gears as load and speed dictate.

Correct, but it can be used to force a downshift or prevent an upshift.

 

[Diesel85]

Just noticed this today on the Stellantis Body Builders site: https://www.converters-and-stellantis.com/signin

Attention Ram Professional Upfitter Portal users,

Ram Professional added more 2025MY CAD and Technical files to our site. Now available for download are the following Chassis Cab files:

• Ram 4500/5500 Chassis Cab
  • 2025 4500 & 5500 Crew Cab 60'' CA 173'' WB 6.7L TD 4x4 - Body-Chassis-Electrical
  • 2025 4500 & 5500 Crew Cab 84'' CA 197'' WB 6.7L TD 4x4 - Body-Chassis-Electrical
  • 2025 4500 & 5500 Reg Cab 108'' CA 192'' WB DRW 6.7L TD 4x4 - Body-Chassis-Electrical
  • 2025 4500 & 5500 Reg Cab 120'' CA 204'' WB DRW 6.7L TD 4x4 - Body-Chassis-Electrical
  • 2025 4500 & 5500 Reg Cab 60'' CA 144'' WB DRW 6.7L TD 4x4 - Body-Chassis-Electrical
  • 2025 4500 & 5500 Reg Cab 84'' CA 168'' WB DRW 6.7L TD 4x4 - Body-Chassis-Electrica
  • Ram Chassis Cab PTO General Guidlines MY25+

We will continue to populate our Ram Heavy Duty and Chassis Cab files as they become available.

 

[Diesel85]

I was able to gain access to the SBB site and sure enough, I can confidently say that there will be a Powerline Transmission due to the dual PTO outputs.

Along with some nice "higher speed" high idle modes.

They also mentioned emissions systems changes.

I want to test drive one right now.... LOL

 

[wyosteve]

FWIW, just heard from my sales buddy at the dealership that the 2025's are slated for delivery to dealers in late February/early March. More time to save some pennies!

 

[Diesel85]

FWIW, just heard from my sales buddy at the dealership that the 2025's are slated for delivery to dealers in late February/early March. More time to save some pennies!

Very good!

I plan on test driving some next year when the weather is back to sunny and 70F.

Will be watching folks' experiences on these forums quite a bit before potentially settling into one in mid to end of 2026.

 

[NIsaacs]

I'll be waiting for the info and to see one 'live'!

Me too. I have been studying the order guides (very complicated) so maybe I can understand the actual build site when it becomes active.

It appears they have gone up in price about $7k since my '21 and the Big Horn is another $6-7k, jeez. I want a Big Horn this time. I want the electric seats, alloy wheels and fog lights. I think if I stay pretty basic they come with the 8.4" screen. I don't want the 12 or 14". I think the level one is about right, plus some options. Tow package, spray in bed liner, skid plate, Mopar floor mats and lotsa chrome

Pushing $75k

 

[Grumpy8811]

Me too. I have been studying the order guides (very complicated) so maybe I can understand the actual build site when it becomes active.

It appears they have gone up in price about $7k since my '21 and the Big Horn is another $6-7k, jeez. I want a Big Horn this time. I want the electric seats, alloy wheels and fog lights. I think if I stay pretty basic they come with the 8.4" screen. I don't want the 12 or 14". I think the level one is about right, plus some options. Tow package, spray in bed liner, skid plate, Mopar floor mats and lotsa chrome

Pushing $75k

the key to wealth is not EZ credit and having the latest automotive stuff, so I'm going to live vicariously thru all of you guys that intend to buy a new truck because it has 2 extra gears.. LOL.. I paid 48k out the door for my new 16 Dually and I don't plan on buying another truck for the rest of my life.

 

[Diesel85]

Me too. I have been studying the order guides (very complicated) so maybe I can understand the actual build site when it becomes active.

It appears they have gone up in price about $7k since my '21 and the Big Horn is another $6-7k, jeez. I want a Big Horn this time. I want the electric seats, alloy wheels and fog lights. I think if I stay pretty basic they come with the 8.4" screen. I don't want the 12 or 14". I think the level one is about right, plus some options. Tow package, spray in bed liner, skid plate, Mopar floor mats and lotsa chrome

Pushing $75k

That $75k is ordering one. You can find one on a lot when they come out. Give it a few months or after the 2026 comes out, they will be marked down much less than that. Right now one can get great deals on the 2024, and I expect maybe even better next year to push them off the lots.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

There were about a dozen recalls on my 2013, but it has been reliable and capable. I am waiting for something clearly better before I become a beta tester for whatever Stellantis offers.

 

[AH64ID]

It appears they have gone up in price about $7k since my '21 and the Big Horn is another $6-7k, jeez.

Pushing $75k

Base price on a CC LB 3500 Laramie is also up $7,125 since I ordered my 22. And the base Laramie has fewer features too.

Can’t get auto-level on a SRW, can’t keep the bench seat on any packages with the Laramie, adaptive steering is part of level on Laramie, Car Play isn’t mentioned until Laramie level 2… etc

The drivetrain may be better but the option configurations are not, what gives Ram?

That $75k is ordering one.

If you’re paying MSRP to order one then you need to find a new dealer…

 

[Signal73]

Yep, volume dealers are around and often do 11% off msrp. I used mark dodge in LA for my Durango. They make it seamless, airport pickup or delivery and you buy a vehicle without steeping foot into the dealership. All online if you like. Paperwork is ready to go when you arrive, you’re out the door in under an hour.

 

[NIsaacs]

Yep, volume dealers are around and often do 11% off msrp. I used mark dodge in LA for my Durango. They make it seamless, airport pickup or delivery and you buy a vehicle without steeping foot into the dealership. All online if you like. Paperwork is ready to go when you arrive, you’re out the door in under an hour.

I picked a bad year when I bought my '21. Major truck shortage with the chip deal. Used truck prices were off the charts. My local wanted MSRP. I finally managed 7% off, I was fine with that, considering the year.

The $75k I posted is just playing with the order guides. No clue how greedy the dealers will be this year. It might pay to order sooner than later, if the hike in tariffs goes...