dse in truck 04-05 CTD

[cj hall]

Hello CCain



Tell us more about the filtering you did. 50/50 is a good starting point

keep us posted on what you find out.



Do you have any pictures of the filtering unit or fuel you put in the truck.





cj hall

 

[cj hall]

centrifuge housing

Hello to All



Here is a picture of the latest housing, the new O riing model

Just finishing up the three housings this should be done in the next few days.

all three are sold and we are planing to build 10 next time.



I recevied two motors today and should be getting one more in the next few weeks.



Thanks for reading



cj hall

 

[JKloppe]

That CF is nice, I think I need one... the same color too.

 

[cj hall]

fuel, water, Centrifuge, web site

hello to all



The trucks are running fine and it is getting colder at night we did have a problem with one of the trucks the 2001 dodge but we fonud the problem and solved it.



the owner of the truck and the person that lives next door are not getting along seems she really does not like the sound of his truck at 3 in the morning when he goes to work, about a two weeks ago he started pluging the water filter on his truck not just once but 5 days in a row we thought it was something in the fuel like water but it was only his truck mine and the others are running from the same batch.



We had a snow storm and found the problem she had been puttting water in his tank we saw the foot prints in the snow leading from her house to the truck and the back to her house and yes the filter pluged that morning a locking fuel cap and a good amount of grease on the back side of the fuel door took care of the issue and a police visit the next morning has taken care of the issue hard to tell some one you did not mess with there truck when there is a black stain on your hands from the grease, got to love the black moly grease.



I have a new centrifuge unit that is going to Bozeman either sunday or sometime next week it has a new stlye heater on it and it should cut down on the amount of power needed to run the unit I will be posting pictures of the new unit tonight I need to take some pictures and send them to the new owner first.



The last thing is I have started to set up a Web site for the Centrifuges and Filtering of oil it should be up and running in the next month or so. I will post the web site address SOON.



Thanks for reading.

cj hall

 

[cj hall]

Centrifuge Pictures

Hello to all



Here is the pictures of the new unit I built.

The heater is the long tube with the heater in the bottom running over to the centrifuge housing then in to the 15 gallon barrel thru the sump pump to storage.



Got it done late last night



building one more this week end and then we will start to build more housings.



thanks for reading



cj hall

 

[cj hall]

3 years

Hello to All



I just got my first centrifuge bowl from the machine shop after a few hrs of machining we have a bowl that I will be testing later today.



its on the yellow unit right now spinning.



I will be running some oil thru it as soon as JKloppe gets here from Colorado he bought the silver housing and he is here to pick it up today. He wants to see the set up I have for cleaning oil.



Here are three pictures of the new bowl



enjoy



cj hall

 

[cj hall]

testing of new bowl

hello to all



the unit is in bozeman and working.



the oil we started with is dirty but the centrifuge did pull the crud out of it he will be trying a few mods with the piping to the unit but once you supply it with oil it works just fine



here are two pictures of the bowl after 15 gallons of oil, its is very dirty and needs to break bettter before its run thru the unit.



the new piping to the unit will be higher on the tank this will give it the top oil and not the bottom oil. the third picture is from my oil and it the crud is from 25 gallons of oil.



Dave G and Andy K Thanks for all your help this really help me.





Thanks for reading

 

[KLauber]

Looks like the crap that plugs my X-100 filters! Definitely need to settle that oil longer before processing!

 

[cj hall]

Hi Ken



yes he does need to settle it longer but the oil coming of the centrifuge if run thru again would be fine.



it took about 5 mins to clean this up and then we started changing the plumbing on the tank. I am sure he is running the unit today with better oil.

I checked today on the rest of the bowls and they are coming along fine we changed the top a little to make it so the oil will not leak pass the top of the bowl. I need them done so I can get my new website up and running.







talk to you later.

 

[JKloppe]

I am building this platform to hold two of Craigs CFs. Up top big tank for veggie and 55s for ATF and motor oil. Three 55s down low are vo, atf, motor. Casters are temporary only, easier to move and work on.



Should I start a new thread for this or post here Craig?





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[cj hall]

nice job

Hello JKloppe

That looks great, nice shop also.

its fine to post on here I like to see what others are building.



I will get back to you on the 3 phase motor and how it works looks like I won't be getting much sleep this weekend,:-laf :-laf



Talk to you later



cj hall

 

[cj hall]

new centrifuge

Hello to All



Here are some pictures of a new unit I built this one is going to Helena,Mt next week.



This unit has a pump on it instead of gravity feed type. the pump keeps the flow rate the same all the time.



enjoy the pictures.



The complete unit cost 3750. 00 by the time its all hooked up and ready to make fuel.



36" x 48" steel black powder coated frame, safety yellow again. Some things never change. :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[cj hall]

centrifuge

Hello to all



I took the unit to Helena and set it up. infact it only need to be hooked to the clean oil storage tank we poured some oil in to the unit the oil he had was way to cold and has not been settled so we used some of the fuel (oil) I had with me to test it out.



The small pump that feeds the heater worked great it prime it self and pumps the oil just fine it took about 1 min to fill the heater and purge the air out of it then we turned the heater on and in about 5 mins we were ready to test the unit out 65 psi in the heater and hot oil 150 degrees.



running the centrifuge with a pump give you better flow control then with gravity feeding it we got it all set up in about 2 hrs and the owner is really happy with the right oil he should be able to make fuel in less than 30 min once he gets it home.



the oil comes out of the centrifuge then in to the clean oil sump tank then thru a 3 micron filter then on to the storage tank. this unit only had one small leak in the piping we took it apart and retaped it fixed the problem.



I will be posting more on this as soom as I get more info on the it.



One other thing is that I got the first Seven Centrifuge Bowls from the local machine shop there are 8 more but we need to get a few more bolts to finish them I will be testing these to make sure thay work before selling them the cost per bowl is less then we thought they would be and we have started the housings also this will be a run of ten units and soon as a few of them are done I will be opening up a web site for these products and more.



I WILL BE BUILDING A COMPLETE UNIT LIKE THE PICTURES ABOVE THIS WILL BE ON THE WEB SITE.



We have another product that will be on the website that should make the flow rate be able to get to 20+ gph and only cost a few hunderd more instead of running two units or more.



Thanks for reading



cj hall

 

[cj hall]

out side temp and fuel testing

Hello to all



We are having a small temp change here



Monday the temps were in the high 50s,Tuesday it went down hill a little highs in the 30s and snow today there is 2 inches of snow on the ground low last night 19 degrees and there is more cold air on the way from Canada ,high today might be 29 looking for -10 below tonight thats what the local weather guy is saying. #@$%!



I have some info on my fuel for cold weather use seems that it will act a lot like b100 at 32 degrees it plugs filters just the same as biodiesel at 100 % the fuel at a b20 blend is good for -18 this is better then a b20 blend of biodiesel. This is good news I am hoping to get more info on the blend soon. free testing some times takes time.



the testing shows that with out the heated tank and fass I would not be able to run the 100 blend in the trucks in the winter time.



I did find a place to get cetane testing done and thinking this might be nice to have just to see if i might be adding to much chenical to the vegatable oil.



the trucks are running just fine and there is nothing new to report at this time

thanks for reading



cj hall

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

I have some info on my fuel for cold weather use seems that it will act a lot like b100 at 32 degrees it plugs filters just the same as biodiesel at 100 % the fuel at a b20 blend is good for -18 dregees this is better then a b20 blend of biodiesel. This is good news i am hoping to get more info on the blend soon. free testing some times takes time.

the testing shows that with out the heated tank and fass I would not be able to run the 100 blend in the trucks in the winter time.

I did find a place to get cetane testing done and thinking this might be nice to have just to see if i might be adding to much chenical to the vegatable oil.

cj hall

Hey CJ how's it going in Montana with the arctic chill? We've had record cold in Washington and since I had mixed up a high percentage of DSE fuel in the '98 before the cold blast hit I decided to park it and drive the old truck on 100% diesel. I felt that even though the '98 runs OK in cold weather on the DSE the fact it's a little smoky makes me concerned of deposits building up on injectors and rings from incomplete combustion, especially since most of my driving is short trips to work and the store. The old truck is better for that, and not such a big deal since I'm not driving a lot of miles.

Speaking of the old truck I forgot to plug it in 2 nights ago, and I don't have the grid heaters working. It was grumpy starting at 1F above zero, but then as soon as I went to drive off it died on me. . . doggone ULSD gelled up. Was able to limp home and throw in a big dose of Amalgamated, then let it idle 10 minutes then all was good. Pretty amazing you can take a 412,000 mile engine and get it to start under those conditions on crapola diesel . . . not to mention I only have 1 battery in that truck.

What did you find with the cetane testing?

Vaughn

 

[cj hall]

heat wave

Hello Vaughn

we are having a heat wave here its up to mid teens :-laf.



the low so far is -19 yes the trucks are running but i am out of fuel I have 1200 gallons of oil but its all frozen and I can't get it warm so no way to use it.



The 2001 has the last of the oil he is about out also. this cold snap is going to be here another week might get in to the 40's by christmas.



had a small issue with the vw jetta at -19 would not start with a 50/50 mix battery was toast pull started it and got it running the owner thought it was the fuel but it started the next am then she bought a new battery and all is well, shes out of fuel also.



have not tested the cetane yet just trying to get by for now.



Looks like it will be in the -10 to -15 this weekend so its back to diesel fuel for now.



All the biodiesel people here have given up for the winter but I will be back at it as soon as we get some warmer weather. should have fuel by the new year.



Thanks for the post good luck with the cold there also.



cj hall

 

[TimBrunett]

Cetane checking?

CJ
How do you check the cetane ?

Everything running fine here. Fuel doing great. Pumps and filters running good and I have a steady supply of oil which seems fairly permanent so I don't grease hunt anymore, just go pump it.

Thanks
Tb

PS I see you're getting some cool weather up there. I attached a pic of some 40-50 year "global warming" in my area.

 

[KLauber]

CJ

How do you check the cetane ?



Everything running fine here. Fuel doing great. Pumps and filters running good and I have a steady supply of oil which seems fairly permanent so I don't grease hunt anymore, just go pump it.



Thanks

Tb



PS I see you're getting some cool weather up there. I attached a pic of some 40-50 year "global warming" in my area.

We got the global warming here in SC. 65 and broke a sweat (a really small one) today! Lows in the 40s until the 7th or 8th of Jan, if that. Oil suppliers are down to 2, about 30 gallons a week which is all I need. Topped off the tank with 1. 92 diesel today!



Ken

 

[cj hall]

Cetane and cold weather

Hello Tim and Ken



the only way to check the cetane is with a test and that will cost around 150. 00 to 200. 00 per test this is what I have been told.



the way I found is to run a few tanks with out any cetane additive in it when you start the engine you will find that you will have to crank on it more if you have lower cetane levels, start adding to the blend cetane additive till the truck starts like it did on #2 all of this needs to be done with a cold engine. add till you think its doing nothing more then decrease the amount till you find the sweet spot. Listen to your engine it will tell you what it likes.



The amount of cetane 8 oz in a 40 gallon batch of vegetable oil works the way I like in my truck but remember I am at 3200 feet above sea level and its a lot colder here then where both of you are at and for longer periods at a time.



I have thought about having the test run on my fuel but with the 10 different places I get my oil from it would not be the same from batch to batch.



The oil you get canola/corn/soy/????? all have different amounts of cetane in them the fact that its used oil is also a problem with cetane amounts



there is a person in billings that is running a cummins with twins in a race truck running my fuel at times and is running 16oz of cetane boost per his 10 gallon fuel tank this works for him but he hurts a lot of parts also. not from the cetane its the twins and other issues. the cetane just gets the oil burning after that its how much you throw at it.



the weather here is like a spring ,it bounces around alot 20 to 30s today 5 to 10s at night global warming !!!! al gore need to get out more!



anyway things are going good here cold but good looking at trying to un thaw some oil on the 31 its should be warmer than today.



Craig Hall

 

[KLauber]

Cold weather coming to SC

Any additive I should put in my tank tonight to defend against the low teens or possibly even single digits the weatherman says MIGHT reach here. The warm-up to the 40s is supposed to be on Sat.



Ken