Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting LONG RANGE ACCURACY....THANKS GregH

[M1AM14SPUR]

Man you are cool! I think you might be my long lost brother or something! I think a good piece that was out was the Peter Perdosoli sharps repo. Nice fit, finish, fele R_R_R_R_!

Of all of the military weapons I ever shot the M1A (civi version of the M14) was the most well fitiing rifle I ever competed with. In my opinion, it is the Cadillac of service shootin!

 

[pullya]

M1

I have a couple of questions and maybe a comment or two--- neither are to be considered serious

!. Why would you shoot an egg at 300 yds. ? I'd rather have my eggs in camp then go hunting---

2. If you have ever carried a deer 300 yds. back to camp to process it you will learn to shot a deer a lot closer to camp---their damn heavy.



Jay

 

[M1AM14SPUR]

M1
I have a couple of questions and maybe a comment or two--- neither are to be considered serious
!. Why would you shoot an egg at 300 yds. ? I'd rather have my eggs in camp then go hunting---
2. If you have ever carried a deer 300 yds. back to camp to process it you will learn to shot a deer a lot closer to camp---their damn heavy.

Jay

You hurt my feelings!:{

First of all, there are lots of people killed by eggs everyday! They are very dangerous!

Secondly, I when shooting deer, I drive the 4 wheeler about 20 minutes, park it, walk about a mile, get in my stand, shoot my deer usually 30 yds or less. I am a bow hunter!

Seriously though. I like reactive targets. I shoot all kind of crazy stuff! I have done lots of gun hunting, I am just more passionate about bowhunting. It takes alot more effort though. I have great place to hunt in Ohio and I need to get tuned up for bow hunting real soon.

 

[pullya]

I guess I was use to hunting in Colo where we didn't have dear stands and, way back then, 4 wheelers weren't that popular. I never tried bow hunting but was always impressed with people that were successful at it. I'll try to remember about those dangerous eggs and make sure I'm careful around them Good luck with your bow hunting this season!

Jay

 

[GHarman]

Man you are cool! I think you might be my long lost brother or something! I think a good piece that was out was the Peter Perdosoli sharps repo. Nice fit, finish, fele R_R_R_R_!



Of all of the military weapons I ever shot the M1A (civi version of the M14) was the most well fitiing rifle I ever competed with. In my opinion, it is the Cadillac of service shootin!

Thanks M1AM14SPUR, It must be cause I hang out with the COOL Folks on this web siteOo. .

We were issued the M-14 in boot through my first tour in Vietnam. They did side track us in Infantry Training Regiment with the M-1 (that does age me a little) My uncle, a WW-2 Vet, and an M-1 fan (he owned 2) showed me how not to get the "M-1 thumb", bless his Heart!

My time with the M-14 left an indelible impression on me that this was a fine battle rifle and a credible tool for competition.

When I first came to Colorado, in 1970 to go to gunsmithing school, I purchased an 1874 Sharps from a collector. It had been buchered and it was not worth anything except for parts. So I rebuilt it and shot alot of B. P rounds through the old cannon. I put a 31" Douglas barrel on the receiver and made a different forearm to fit. The barrel was . 459 Groove diameter with a 1-18" twist. I used the schools . 45/70 reamer to cut the chamber. It had a short throat for jacketed bullets. The throat allowed me to seat the Lyman . 45-535 Gr. Postell designed bullet out far enough to compress 80 Gr. of FFg into a solid head case. W O W, did that combo Shoot! I found that the rifle shot best with this bullet seated hard on top of the compressed powder charge and the first band of the bullet forced partway into the rifling, not unlike a . 22 RF match chamber. The sights were a tang and windgage globe front, but I liked the Unertl Small Game Scope the best! It looked like an old Winchester A5 although a Malcolm would have been a period match. I'll post a picture for ya. GregH

 

[GHarman]

The rebuilt Sharps Model 1874. GregH

 

[pullya]

Greg,

I haven't heard the term M-1 thumb in-----well lets just say a lot of years--Damn they hurt!!!!!!! Thanks for the memories-

Jay

Semper Fi

 

[M1AM14SPUR]

The rebuilt Sharps Model 1874. GregH

What a beautiful rifle!! I love those. I have zeroed in a few m1 garands for some friends, they are very nice.

A little of subject, I have a friend who is a WWII Marine Vet who became a great friend to me whwn I was stationed outside of Detroit. One day he knocked on my door and said he had something for me and I invited him in. He was carrying a rifle case. He gave me a 03 Springfield! I was floored at that act of genorosity!

 

[GHarman]

What a beautiful rifle!! I love those. I have zeroed in a few m1 garands for some friends, they are very nice.



A little of subject, I have a friend who is a WWII Marine Vet who became a great friend to me whwn I was stationed outside of Detroit. One day he knocked on my door and said he had something for me and I invited him in. He was carrying a rifle case. He gave me a 03 Springfield! I was floored at that act of genorosity!

WOW! Thats a real generous GIFT! I'd say he adopted you! GregH

 

[M1AM14SPUR]

By the way guys, I have noticed al lot of Veterans here. I appreciate the service you did. There are to many liberals out there trying to make it sound like 3rd rate citizens.
I am tired of hearing about these radical Baptist and other jerks protesting at GI funerals. (By the way, I am a conservative Babtist) I know if I ever see that happen, they will see a puff of smoke, a loud whistleing noise, then they will see a Ram Badge flying at them. The End.

Thank all of you. Some day maybe we shouldstart a TDR Vet thread or club?

 

[GHarman]

That is a great idea! GregH

 

[M1AM14SPUR]

That is a great idea! GregH

What a great Idea? Driving our CTD Rams through protestors or the thread/ club idea?

 

[GHarman]

Hey! I'm multitasking:-laf. Actually the thread, Of Course. GregH

 

[M1AM14SPUR]

Hey! I'm multitasking:-laf. Actually the thread, Of Course. GregH

Uuuuuuuuuh, me too?

 

[Hammer]

My preferred choice for any shot over 500yds is my 6. 5/284. I also have a couple of close seconds 6mm Ackley Improved... 8mmSTW... Lazzeroni . 264 Phantom. All of mine were built by a local shop here in PA and built under the light gun rules(16lbs)so I could go and shoot matches upstate. I haven't been out for a few years but have a local range which has targets up to 100yds which I still regularly use. I am a big fan of varmint shooting in the summer but around here where I live anything calibured larger than a . 22-250 is to large as we do not have the distance due to homes. I generally shoot a Winchester Pre-64 Model 70 in . 22-250 or a . 220 Swift for the light bullets and accuracy at short distances here for varmints,if I go upstate then my 6. 5/284 is the preferred choice..... Andy

 

[GHarman]

Hammer, I like the 6. 5X 284 also! I havent built one as yet. Maybe in a couple of years? GregH

 

[Flying_gage]

Guys I love these threads and love hearing the stories. I am sure there are others out there that feel the same and don't post; so maybe I am the collective voice. Keep them coming!

On a side note, I love to shoot and am building a 100 yard range at our house. It should be fun! It is my goal to shoot well someday. We'll see.

On another side note, it cracks me up that people think it is so easy to shoot any great distance. They think everyone can pick a rifle up and shoot tight groups at a thousand yards; even gun people do this!

Finally, I miss Colorado. I can close my eyes and see the valleys with swaying grass; ringed by trees with spired mountains reaching to the sky. That was at least the Colorado I knew. It's gone now and many towns, such as Cripple Creek, were transformed from little pockets of history and lore to steel and tourists...

Sigh.....

 

[GHarman]

Flying_gage, You are right about Colorado, changing:{!

I am in the process of building a . 308 Winchester, on a Remington M-700 action. It has been in the works for 4 years as I only work on it in my spare time and as the mood and thought processes and finances come together. I may post some pictures of the activity, later. GregH

 

[AABEN]

Yes you can make a mistake but the gun does not. So the gun is always better than the man.

 

[GHarman]

blackbear, The gun is a machine and you are correct in stating that the "gun does not" make a mistake. (although, it is not perfect, it was built by man, with many flaws, each flaw is a check mark against perfection) A tuning fork vibrates at the frequency (harmonic tone) it was designed to mimic! Unless, it to, is flawed, then it is useless to the musician. The issue is tweeking the components of the gun into compliance with the laws of physics (periodic wave). That makes "your mistakes" smaller. Have you ever heard someone say they have a gun that just really "likes to shoot"? That piece was one of those that has the harmonics to allow human error to be less critical. That then allows you, the shooter, to further refine your position, trigger control, sight picture, breathing and other considerations to become "one with the rifle" ! That may sound like some far Eastern mumbo jumbo, but, in fact, it is closer to a perfect description of the process than any other words I can use.

So, if you have a 'minute of piepan " rifle, that rifle will not allow you to shoot any better than its capability. It is then, the limiting factor. Your skill is limited to the statistical probability of what percentage of the shots will be in an acceptable zone, the cone of dispersion. No matter how much you practice with this gun, you will not shoot any better than it is capable of delivering.

Another example; If you were the national long range rifle champion, would you practice with a inaccurate, imprecise rifle. Would you show up at a match with one, expecting to win? Just some thoughts. Greg