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Gentlemen:



I have just completed my 3rd crossing of the Sierra Nevadas, via Interstate 80, during the last 7 days. In my 40 years of driving this road, I do not think that I have seen more challenging conditions for driving than those of the past week. The conditions have been impossibly brutal.



Events started a week-ago Friday with a 40 vehicle pile-up that included several large trucks and a fatality. The road was closed for nearly a day while they sorted out the vehicles involved in that accident. Indeed, the road seemed to be closed more often than it was open during a series of concentrated storms.



Coming home last night was the worst. It was nearly white-out conditions for nearly 50 miles. There was very little to guide you down the road except for the occasional outline of a snow bank or road sign. Even if you could see a sign, it was obliterated by the plastering of snow on its face. At times, you would be alone in your passage then suddenly coming upon 20 vehicles in slow procession struggling to navigate the conditions. Heavy snow removing equipment seemed everywhere.



As difficult as driving conditions were last night, I must say that I have never been more impressed with the performance of my truck than in the past week. Crews had great difficulty keeping the roads plowed so it was not unusual to plow through 6-12 inches of snow. Ice was a constant challenge. (Even if you were not moving, ice was a problem. I watched a tractor-trailer truck slide into another lane and truck although neither vehicle was moving. The pull of gravity on the slight incline from one lane to another was all that was required. ) Still, my 13 year old Dodge with 208,000 miles provided its usual low-key performance with easy of handling, shifting and surprisingly solid tractions. Lots of other vehicles demonstrated their "superior" traction by being firmly planted into nearby snow embankments.



Even if I wanted to stop and get away from the conditions, there was no place to flee. Most exits were unplowed. A planned exit for me was missed because I truly did not see the exit signs or the roadway--I knew the exit had to be there but there was nothing to see. When I finally neared the rest stop at Gold Run, it was blocked by snow and stalled trucks. Not a good time to be anywhere near the Sierra Nevadas.



You start to get "spooky" when confronting these conditions for a solid week. With so much chaos on the road, you keep waiting for the law of averages to cause your vehicle to fail. Still, the truck started every time with a simple click of the ignition. It moved through snow depths that I was sure would cause it to be stuck up to its axles. Fuel pressure, oil pressure, engine temp were rock solid. One trip, I left the engine running for over 12 hours--no big deal for a diesel--but its was so nice to have the warmth and dryness of that cab available constantly.



Moral of the story? Maintenance. A little maintenance pays great dividends especially in weather like these recent storms. I saw so many vehicles with every imaginable breakdown during the past week. I cannot imagine a worse time than being stuck in a blizzard with vehicle problems.



Regards,



M. Young



P. S. Truck and I are leaving tomorrow for another trip into the mountains.
 
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I don't take I 80 because of the very problems you mentioned. I always go RT 50. Some times slow going but not the problems I 80 has. This last week was a perfect example, went to bay area on RT 50 while I 80 was closed. Slow going but passable.
 
And what ever you do Never take 88 across into Calif in bad weather trust me they don't give a darn if the road is Trash they keep it open at All Cost even if it cost you a truck
 
Ah yes. BUT when the sun comes out and the roadway clears, with the snow in the trees Hwy 88 becomes one of the prettiest drives in the country .
 
I took 88 on Monday night when I-80 was a standstill, yeah 88 was a little hairy, but there was no one out on the road, and I did 20-35 mph the whole way.



Took I-80 coming back to Reno Thursday, what a mess! Idiots everywhere doing either 50 mph or 10 mph, trucks spinning out, all that. Barely made it over before they shut that down. On that day, 80, 50, and 88 were all closed.



I will take the 5spd Cummins anywhere, prefer it over any suv. On highway imho the weight and length adds up to a pretty capable vehicle, especially when the snow gets deep. There's something about chugging past new high-end SUV's in the ditch in a 14 year old truck, that I like
 
One other note as to the conditions: Except for the gentle tug on the RPM of the Cummins, I could not tell if I was going up or down a hill--truly. It was a true vertigo experience as you progressed. No wonder I missed so many exits.



M. Young
 
I love 88 in Good weather and will take 88 every chance I get but you deffently get a different perspective on the view when you land up side down It Hurt's the pocket book way to much .
 
One other note as to the conditions: Except for the gentle tug on the RPM of the Cummins, I could not tell if I was going up or down a hill--truly. It was a true vertigo experience as you progressed. No wonder I missed so many exits.



M. Young





You have the cruise control set? [Just kidding]
 
I took 88 to the Carson City area this morning. There was some snow on the roads and chains or 4x4 w/ snow tires required for probably 20 miles. The scenery was beautiful but I was driving my daughters car back so returned via Hwy 50. That was dry and normal driving virtually all the way. AND very little traffic and even through Sacto. at 4:30 PM it wasn't too bad.
 
i used to live just on the cali side (grassvalley/colefax) i know what you guys mean...

fyi! i am a direct descendant of the Donner party. (Breen)

it a heck of a trip when its bad weather!
 
I took 88 to the Carson City area this morning. There was some snow on the roads and chains or 4x4 w/ snow tires required for probably 20 miles. The scenery was beautiful but I was driving my daughters car back so returned via Hwy 50. That was dry and normal driving virtually all the way. AND very little traffic and even through Sacto. at 4:30 PM it wasn't too bad.



While in the military I was stationed near Sacramento and drove a few times to Lake Tahoe on US Hwy 50. Which is more scenic, US Hwy 50 or I-80 between Reno and Sacramento?



george
 
Gentlemen:



I came out of the mountains last night. It finally stopped snowing a couple of days ago but what a mess to clean up. Even the railroad was closed for 5 days and Union Pacific brought out two steam-powered rotary snow blowers to clean the track. (It was the most unusual sound to hear a true steam whistle on a steam powered behemoth---actually kind of nice. ) Some long-time local residents feel that this was the worst series of storms since 1955. The statistics bear them out.



As bad as the weather was several days ago, the roads were plowed clean and the traffic could move at up to 65 mph on I-80. The sun was out and the temp reached about 40 degrees.



The truck ran fine. I have no special traction equipment but the stock 4x4 seemed to handle the drifts and deep snow fine. I had to take several runs to get through in places but it did fine. Still, I hate to be places out of cell phone range and where AAA will not come to get you out. Someone would come looking for me eventually so I had to be prepared to be stuck overnight in the snow and low temps. I would just leave the engine running all the time.



I have to do some minor repairs on the truck--my brake lights will not come on and I lost trailer lights. Tomorrow I will be going back up to the mountains for more of the same--but with better weather.



Regards,



M. Young
 
Snow

Before moving to Colorado we lived on the East shore of Lake Almanor in the Sierras, that winter I'll never forget we got 11' of snow in 3 weeks time.

You could heat your house with a candle, the silence was amazing, there was no sound, hard to describe.

I'm comming out to visit family in mid April, hope the melting is slow!!!!!!!

Chuck
 
Gentlemen:



I have had a few more trips crossing the Sierras since my last posting. I do believe that Interstate 80 is slowing turning into Interstate 666.



There is one section of the road between Gold Run and Colfax that is largely unchanged since the late 1950's. There is little or marginal shoulder to speak of although several decades ago they placed a concrete median divider in the center strip to stop head-on collisions. I have seen some nasty accidents in this section.



The Bay Area people in their hot SUV's and "weenie" cars like to drive fast through this section to really exercise their vehicles. On my last trip heading west bound, some hot rodder in a little Honda Civic managed to spin out and was stopped in the slow lane perpendicular to the direction of traffic. He managed to smash up his front end and was standing next to the road as he was talking on his cell phone. The accident must have just happened as I came around the corner and saw his car. My instantaneous reaction was to more into the left lane. Unfortunately, another weenie car was racing by. I do not know how I missed both vehicles but the distances could have been measured in the thickness of a cat's whisker. You guys know this type of moment--you get one about every 10-20 years and it manages to place a real scare in you.



I do not know if the driver of that car realized how much danger he had placed himself and others because of his speeding. It is a truly a nasty section of the road. About two years ago, a truck managed to go over the barrier and arrive upside down off the road. I could barely see the bottoms of the trailer wheels turned upside down. The driver was killed. It was so difficult to remove the wreckage that they just left the the destruction there for a couple of days. Upon check the driver's logs, however, there was indication that there was another driver within the vehicle. They had to go back to the wreck site and search more closely before they found another body in the mangled mass of truck parts. Uggh.



Moral of story? Not much of one. People seem to keep committing these same stupid efforts to become permanent recipients of a Darwin Award. I have learned this much about that roadway---if a sign posts a lower speed limit for a curve, it is very good advice to follow that speed limit. Lower if you are operating at heavier weights.



Stay safe,



M. Young
 
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i ran 80 88 and 50 all winter going between reno and modesto. it can get pretty hairy up top on all the roads but like my cousin said the weight and length make it pretty nice. i cruised right over no sweat. what always gets me is ill see someone in front of me spin out just randomly not doing anything stupid as far as i can tell and ill cruise through the same spot without a single slip.
 
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