T05 - SCR Emissions Recall - Anyone got this fixed yet?

[TCDiesel]

I did not get the details Form Nick ,Next time I talk to him I will ask, But he did call and confirm the problem was fix by Dealerconnect, So if you want the exact reason call them. Good luck Heehee

 

[Cummins2014]

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You joined in 2016, I joined in 2001 when I bought my second RAM/Cummins. First one was in was a year old used 93 in 1994, were you even born then? TCDiesel was foolish enough to let things from the political section spill over to this area. SnoKing

Not sure when I was born or when I joined this forum has anything to do with the discussion or the forum.

My first car when I got my drivers license was a 1949 olds , that was 1962. You do the math. Now that we got that out of the road. Granted I may not be quite as old as you ,but I'm not far off.

I didn't get my first diesel until 1998, the early 99 Superduty 7.3. Still a little behind on my first diesel compared to you ,but still pretty close. So still wondering about what your post was all about.

 

[SnoKing]

Not sure when I was born or when I joined this forum has anything to do with the discussion or the forum.

My first car when I got my drivers license was a 1949 olds , that was 1962. You do the math. Now that we got that out of the road. Granted I may not be quite as old as you ,but I'm not far off.

I didn't get my first diesel until 1998, the early 99 Superduty 7.3. Still a little behind on my first diesel compared to you ,but still pretty close. So still wondering about what your post was all about.

Here is an edgy quote from one of your early post. 6/10/2016, nothing much has changed since then.

"Quote Originally Posted by jhenderson View Post
Everyone has has an opinion. Criticizing others without having used the tools in question is what reduces an opinions value. Isn't it time to service your transmission?

You:
Service the transmission, I do know one thing , before I buy a tool for it, I will surely consult with you. Heaven forbid I buy another tool that works perfectly without checking in first."

And you frequently repeated edgy post. Snokiung

 

[SnoKing]

Not sure when I was born or when I joined this forum has anything to do with the discussion or the forum.

My first car when I got my drivers license was a 1949 olds , that was 1962. You do the math. Now that we got that out of the road. Granted I may not be quite as old as you ,but I'm not far off.

I didn't get my first diesel until 1998, the early 99 Superduty 7.3. Still a little behind on my first diesel compared to you ,but still pretty close. So still wondering about what your post was all about.

Here is an edgy quote from one of your early post. 6/10/2016, nothing much has changed since then.

"Quote Originally Posted by jhenderson View Post
Everyone has has an opinion. Criticizing others without having used the tools in question is what reduces an opinions value. Isn't it time to service your transmission?

Service the transmission, I do know one thing , before I buy a tool for it, I will surely consult with you. Heaven forbid I buy another tool that works perfectly without checking in first."

And you frequently repeated edgy posts. Snokiung

 

[Cummins2014]

Here is an edgy quote from one of your early post. 6/10/2016, nothing much has changed since then.

"Quote Originally Posted by jhenderson View Post
Everyone has has an opinion. Criticizing others without having used the tools in question is what reduces an opinions value. Isn't it time to service your transmission?

Service the transmission, I do know one thing , before I buy a tool for it, I will surely consult with you. Heaven forbid I buy another tool that works perfectly without checking in first."

And you frequently repeated edgy posts. Snokiung

Edgy posts, I guess if thats what you call it. A little recap on the thread referenced , and maybe you could go back and read what lead up to what. But in a nutshell he said the correct tool was bla bla, and I told him thats an opinion, it went downhill from there.

I think edgy in your words is better then the misinformation, and brand bashing that goes on , and you have been called out by me on an occasion or two. The nonsense you spewed about picture frames comes to mind, and the Andersen, it goes on ,and on. So edgy it will be.

 

[jhenderson]

My 2013 Cummins Was getting the Mandatory T05, the Tech replaced the entire SCR form DPF to T.P.... FCA Instructions call for the Ammonia module removal and cut the Harness. I said to the Tech You cut that harness and you will be looking for a New Job ( He's a good friend of mine for years) Heeheee . It was all Replaced and the second you power up the System BUS cannot, do to the module sensor that's in the new SCR removed, He could NOT flash the ECM with the New Software that does NOT use the sensor, So he call me , We thought Maybe the Dealership Network was the problem so I went and Got My WItech and log in on My account ,No go... So he had to put the WHOLE old SCR Back on (I helped) and We are waiting on FCA to come up with the fix.... T05 5 months old 2013 3500 1 Year on 2013-15 2500, Needless to say if He would have cut that Harness the Truck would be Dead until FCA fix the system.

How do you propose to permanently terminate the harness connection to the ammonia sensor?

 

[TCDiesel]

Shrink wrap....No problems the last 2 weeks, for some od reasons it was throwing 2509 code ( the most feared code IMO) at 1st but has not appeared lately. I'm sure it will all work out...FCA is Has spend $10 million on its communications and security. The days of flash tuning (Aftermarket) are fast approaching their end, Even Now as it stands FCA is requiring DATA VIA WITECH prior to any work order, time will tell All. That sensor created many problems for owners I'm glad to see Cummins/Bosch has a work around for it.

 

[Dan_69GTX]

You stated "Even Now as it stands FCA is requiring DATA VIA WITECH prior to any work order,..." What exactly does that mean? What do they pull/check?

Software version, etc? I've never used a WITECH, though I'd love to own one, just not worth the $$ for it and the subscription since I don't work professionally as a mechanic anymore.

Thanks!
Dan

 

[TCDiesel]

Dan, Each dealership has its own setups and security..I'm no longer in the loop after I sold My franchise.. But I do have vested interest in 1 corporation that's has dealerships in the US many in MN.. Its my understanding That FCA is going to encrypt its software in the very near future, Even at present when we long in the info on what we do is saved in FCA network, When I flash My own vehicles on recalls , I can check the status at mopar.com. So My guess to the pull/check is yes.

 

[Bob4x4]

In the service drive prior to write up the truck is to be plugged in.Any software update and recalls are noted,warranty and service contracts and quite a bit of other info.It is a good tool and can be used to help the customer and dealer/corporate.

 

[jhenderson]

That's how I ended up with the SCR recall. I went in for the pass airbag flash and was told to schedule for SCR even though I've got a 3500 and haven't been notified by FCA. As for the shrink wrap, as I understand it, that's the FCA fix. When they say cut the harness, they mean cut off the connector and heat shrink the individual wires from the plug. Then tape them back to he harness and zip tie the whole affair back in place. I guess we're basically on the same page. Thanks.

 

[TCDiesel]

Yes.. Just don't cut the harness until completely done... I'm sure if you were to ask what happened to the connector/plug it go's to round file..... I shrink wrapped the Whole plug , and kept the module and sensor.

 

[JR]

RE air bag recall: any symptoms related to this one?
I've been getting an intermittent "service airbag" message upon start up that promptly goes away.

 

[jhenderson]

Mine was a flash for possible non deployment of pass side in a rollover. I had no symptoms.

 

[SnoKing]

Mine was a flash for possible non deployment of pass side in a rollover. I had no symptoms.

WHY DOES MY VEHICLE NEED REPAIRS?
The Occupant Restraint Control (ORC) module on your truck [1] may activate a diagnostic
trouble code (DTC) due to external stimulus which disables its ability to sense vehicle rollover
events. When the DTC is set, airbag and seat belt pretensioner deployment based on rollover
sensing is disabled for the ignition cycle in which the DTC was set. The loss of rolloveractivated
side air bags and seat belt pretensioner deployment capability during a
crash may increase the risk of injury or death.

 

[Hippy43]

WHY DOES MY VEHICLE NEED REPAIRS?
The Occupant Restraint Control (ORC) module on your truck [1] may activate a diagnostic
trouble code (DTC) due to external stimulus which disables its ability to sense vehicle rollover
events. When the DTC is set, airbag and seat belt pretensioner deployment based on rollover
sensing is disabled for the ignition cycle in which the DTC was set. The loss of rolloveractivated
side air bags and seat belt pretensioner deployment capability during a
crash may increase the risk of injury or death.

Because of the quoted reason stated. From whay my mechanic told me, you can hit a bump in the road wrong and it will disable the rollover sensor. Sure it appears to reset next ignition cycle BUT it's better to be safe than need it and it not deploy. Right? It's just a flash. takes 15 minutes or less. Not a big deal.

 

[trs31061]

Had my 2015 done this week

2015 ram 3500 ram 3500 6.7 cummints

 

[Bob4x4]

Yes.. Just don't cut the harness until completely done... I'm sure if you were to ask what happened to the connector/plug it go's to round file..... I shrink wrapped the Whole plug , and kept the module and sensor.

with the new scr cat there is no longer a home for the sensor and with the new software the module is never looked for

 

[SnoKing]

OK, I plugged in the popcorn popper and put beer in the refer!

 

[TCDiesel]

with the new scr cat there is no longer a home for the sensor and with the new software the module is never looked for

Correct, its not necessary IF the Host is able to receive the new software...Bob4x4 I'm sure you don't like doing things for Free? if the host will NOT accept the NEW Tune and you cut that harness you are going to spend 20 minutes soldering and shrink wrapping for free Plus the R/R when you request for the additional labor. But their always the snojob Dealers that will lie to you and state that the problem is the truck when they send you on your way and it sits at the lairership parking lot (Days) getting door dings or worst ,waiting on the fix that cause the Host NOT to accept the new Tune...

Its not necessary to us the sensor once the R/R is complete AND the host accepts the Tune go and cut the Harness.