Oil In Coolant!

[Busa Dave]

I figure once you unlock the ECM, and change any parameter from stock all bets are off regarding potential engine warranty

Never got into the ECM--read what was posted.

 

[6V92TA]

it was unclear to me what you meant. if you didn't go into the ECM, no worries. right?

 

[mwilson]

Were you one of the people that posted about it was the oil cooler lol.....

No, but I am.

No worries, I'll make sure it doesn't happen again...

 

[TCDiesel]

How does Oil make its way into the Coolant, Failed HG? The Returning passage have 0 PSI when all the Coolant is +12PSI , I could see coolant in oil but NOT reversed VIA HG.

 

[6V92TA]

How does Oil make its way into the Coolant, Failed HG? The Returning passage have 0 PSI when all the Coolant is +12PSI , I could see coolant in oil but NOT reversed VIA HG.

I agree, but that is the claim and we heard what the fix was.

 

[sag2]

Well it isn't fixed yet. I'm still not putting my money on the head gasket unless it had much more power added that was disclosed.

 

[Newsa]

How does Oil make its way into the Coolant, Failed HG? The Returning passage have 0 PSI when all the Coolant is +12PSI , I could see coolant in oil but NOT reversed VIA HG.

Could it be "sucked in" when it.cools down?

 

[NIsaacs]

I think I would stay close to home for a few days.

Nick

 

[TCDiesel]

The coolant passage are on the outer parameter of the head , the oil return jackets are on the other side, I will ask Eric http://nolimitmfg.com/

Generally when the HG fails on 5.9 / 6.7 It pukes out the De-gas Bottle or it will Cough/Back fire or even leak externally on the block.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Well Fiat did the right thing here. I am paying for some but hey I run aftermarket stuff however, that this failure was caused by the module is tough to prove. Having good counsel is always a good thing. For me I would have paid for the entire repair --- in the long run this was cheaper for Fiat than dealing with my litigation attorney.

They can tell you had something on there plain and simple. If your Dealer was doing their job they would have mentioned the tuner to the area rep and you would have been on your own. They don't F around anymore.

Sorry but you would have wasted a fortune trying to defend your self and LOST.

It aint like it used to be, consider your self lucky!!!

 

[Busa Dave]

They can tell you had something on there plain and simple. If your Dealer was doing their job they would have mentioned the tuner to the area rep and you would have been on your own. They don't F around anymore.

Sorry but you would have wasted a fortune trying to defend your self and LOST.

It aint like it used to be, consider your self lucky!!!

Welllllll the rep was aware and disclosure was made in the initial report back to Fiat so mull on that one awhile . Just got home after visiting and they found other issues like the EGR Cooler was replaced in addition to the actual cleaning of the EGR. New fuel filters changed a long list of things. Very pleased -- test will be getting it back today and testing it out before going on a 1k round trip to the ranch. Best 2k I will have spent in a long time.... Total is up close to 7k now.

I made no attempt to defraud or lie about this as SOME people would have done. If I do something that causes a failure of a warrantied part then so what no big deal I will pay myself.. Have fun with GM and my 2016 built motor Z06 (748hp to the rear wheels)! Know anything that that is powertrain related is kaput now but that is the price you pay to play.

First start by the builder after they put it back together.

 

[Busa Dave]

The truck will be finished by cob today. All of the parts will be listed on the invoice we will see exactly what was replaced..

 

[Busa Dave]

Got the truck yesterday afternoon. Very happy with the results. The temp runs 5 degrees warmer maybe because of the new thermostat and the oil pressures are the same now that I changed out the

The truck will be finished by cob today. All of the parts will be listed on the invoice we will see exactly what was replaced..

Very happy with the results. They did everything I asked to be done and then some! The Stryker Module is still there just not plugged in lol. With the new water pump, coolant and thermostat the engine is running at 190 vs 185 as it did the previous 48k. The oil pressure and temps are still pretty much the same after I changed out the Rotella and Mopar Filter that the Dealer uses. Engine bay was clean no oil or grease anywhere.

Only bad part is the mpg's went down a little on the same roads and highways I travel everyday going to breakfast in Fort Worth. May put the 260k ARP head studs in next week just to ensure that this will not happen again. Cause of hg failure was a stretching of some of the head bolts. Oh well---if you play with higher hp and tq then sometimes bad things can happen.

Cost me a 1k "deductible" for the "warranty" portion of the repair altogether with the EGR components replaced but total was almost 6k but about 900.00 of that was in parts and labor for replacing everything I could think of that could be done while it was in like fuel filter service, several new hoses, serpentine belt, fan assy, actual EGR valve cleaned the EGR cooler was replaced under warranty along with some other parts that were heat discolored.

 

[Newsa]

Got the truck yesterday afternoon. Very happy with the results. The temp runs 5 degrees warmer maybe because of the new thermostat and the oil pressures are the same now that I changed out the


Very happy with the results. They did everything I asked to be done and then some! The Stryker Module is still there just not plugged in lol. With the new water pump, coolant and thermostat the engine is running at 190 vs 185 as it did the previous 48k. The oil pressure and temps are still pretty much the same after I changed out the Rotella and Mopar Filter that the Dealer uses. Engine bay was clean no oil or grease anywhere.

Only bad part is the mpg's went down a little on the same roads and highways I travel everyday going to breakfast in Fort Worth. May put the 260k ARP head studs in next week just to ensure that this will not happen again. Cause of hg failure was a stretching of some of the head bolts. Oh well---if you play with higher hp and tq then sometimes bad things can happen.

Cost me a 1k "deductible" for the "warranty" portion of the repair altogether with the EGR components replaced but total was almost 6k but about 900.00 of that was in parts and labor for replacing everything I could think of that could be done while it was in like fuel filter service, several new hoses, serpentine belt, fan assy, actual EGR valve cleaned the EGR cooler was replaced under warranty along with some other parts that were heat discolored.

Ahhhhhhh, the very unlikely "stretched" headbolts.

I'm fine with my slightly detuned G56 truck.

 

[TCDiesel]

The 6.7 / 5.9 do NOT have the Sensor for live oil PSI, its a switch thats trigger at 10PSI.

You would need to install live gauge for actual OIL PSI.

 

[Busa Dave]

Well if you want to play you have to be ready to pay. When I was younger I used to have 3 disk TQ converters then 5 disk, ATS transmissions, big turbo's, propane injection etc. Now that I am a little older the trucks have to be dependable when I drive at all hours of the night heading west. Sucks to get older....

 

[Busa Dave]

The 6.7 / 5.9 do NOT have the Sensor for live oil PSI, its a switch thats trigger at 10PSI.

You would need to install live gauge for actual OIL PSI.

Well mine does watch it every single day. You need to do a little more due diligence.

 

[TCDiesel]

Well mine does watch it every single day. You need to do a little more due diligence.

Due diligences? I went back looked at your posting No mention of live gauge, I pictured mine. that one is My ED, I can provide the exact Gauge in My Cummins.
For members not familiar with Most OEM oil PSI readings are programed conditional readings AKA (LOM) Lie-O-Meters.

 

[Busa Dave]

Due diligences? I went back looked at your posting No mention of live gauge, I pictured mine. that one is My ED, I can provide the exact Gauge in My Cummins.
For members not familiar with Most OEM oil PSI readings are programed conditional readings AKA (LOM) Lie-O-Meters.

Valid point sir.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Due diligences? I went back looked at your posting No mention of live gauge, I pictured mine. that one is My ED, I can provide the exact Gauge in My Cummins.
For members not familiar with Most OEM oil PSI readings are programed conditional readings AKA (LOM) Lie-O-Meters.

I thought the oil pressure readings were legit and the oil temp was a guesstimate.