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To decode Peak Blue DEF code above the 20 is for 2020 and 131 the number of days remaining in 2019. I bought it at 121 days remaining. So it was 10 days old when I bought it. I added a widget called 'countdown days' to an adroid home screen. So now when go to WM for Peak BlueDEF I can decode the day easier.

Also send Peak an email asking how many places in the US that they produce DEF. I have also noticed at some Walmart's that the person stocking the shelf is leaving the older stuff on the back of the shelf. No one has mostly like talked to them about day codes.


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You are correct on the manufacturing date, but curious to how you come up with the 20 being 2020. Was told by Peak, when talking to them the first two numbers are the year produced plus 1. So 20 being produced in 2019. The next three as you said days remaining in the year.
 
You are correct on the manufacturing date, but curious to how you come up with the 20 being 2020. Was told by Peak, when talking to them the first two numbers are the year produced plus 1. So 20 being produced in 2019. The next three as you said days remaining in the year.

Yes 19+1=20!
 
WOW...dates are Not the most important.
If you can tell the difference from an 18 Year Old Male/Female and a 80 Year old Male/Female you can see DEF problems or contamination. I prefer the clear -2.5 gallon containers. I also would purchase at any Retail Pump if convenient. I make my own, glad I do, it save's Money and is the correct DEF ALWAYS.

The date has No value to me, its the containers product content that counts with Me, and Yes I wouldn't buy DEF in 1 gallon container because you cannot inspect its content.

Most store's NO longer will take returns on and type of liquid products, that includes Lube and DEF.
 
Reply from Peak BlueDEF:

Thank you for your email.

We have manufacturing facilities across the US, blending DEF in many contai=
ner sizes from 1 gallon jugs to 5000 gallon train car loads.

This is how we are able to get product to our retail partners so quickly.

Best Regards,

BlueDEF Technical Services
 
Reply from Peak BlueDEF:

Thank you for your email.

We have manufacturing facilities across the US, blending DEF in many contai=
ner sizes from 1 gallon jugs to 5000 gallon train car loads.

This is how we are able to get product to our retail partners so quickly.

Best Regards,

BlueDEF Technical Services


You should tell them they are blending it wrong. Tell them there is strong anecdotal evidence of such on a truck forum. :D
 
LMBO Big time, its no guessing who the followers are. Please share some type of proof that 32.5% is the correct level...... other then someone says SO. I already presented that Question to API back in 2014 in front of the entire audience.. In Albuquerque NM.
Its this simple KT.Sno,News, all followers of what they read, I have yet to see one of them be inventive or do something that cannot be paste copy or data of their own. They lack freedom on subjects on the merit of NO action or proof, Sno,KT,News, My post are for those that are willing to step up and Challenge the Status Quo- not be part of it.
 
LMBO Big time, its no guessing who the followers are. Please share some type of proof that 32.5% is the correct level...... other then someone says SO. I already presented that Question to API back in 2014 in front of the entire audience.. In Albuquerque NM.
Its this simple KT.Sno,News, all followers of what they read, I have yet to see one of them be inventive or do something that cannot be paste copy or data of their own. They lack freedom on subjects on the merit of NO action or proof, Sno,KT,News, My post are for those that are willing to step up and Challenge the Status Quo- not be part of it.


All of the manufacturers big and small......heavy and light equipment have settled on the 32.5% standard. The dosing and programming all revolve around the standard. Apparently,. Many manufacturers have also engineered the dosing to change within reasonable variations of the concentration. A little less dosing if the concentration is higher than 32.5% and more dosing if the concentration is low.

Undoubtedly, the 32 5% number was settled on because it helps prevent freezing down to about 15 degrees Fahrenheit.
Also, the 32 5 % leaves a bit of room for urea particles precipitating out of solution. Urea is soluble at most ambient temps to about 50% or more.

I have no problems with any DEF as long as it is reasonably fresh. I won't use motor oil or oil that/fuel filters that is/are more than 5 years old because the filters get rusty and the additives degrade. Likewise, I steer clear of def that is more than a year old when fresher def is within reach.
 
Newsa ,not all owners have had trouble free Ownership, Thats right its just the standard....My point being that DEF is NOT fuel or Lube, where the standard NEEDS to be met, for longevity and environment purposes. Newsa 32.5% is very rich look what happens when the Water evaporates it leave behind the solids , that's why DEF Injector gets Plugged , Some driving styles have Huge swings in Production of NOx and the sensors over react to the dosage...

If you want to stay clear of DEF older than a year it a personal choice I support.

The options are to these ( Those that are NOT trouble free) owners lower the concentrate or Delete. It does no good to eliminate the Entire emission system that's designed to protect the air we breath because of a standard that does not always fit driving styles.

Early systems tried to measure PPM of NOx at the tail pipe the Water/Urea content corroded the sensors and they were problematic, thus new systems are set at the worst Ratio's.

Newsa the reason those manufactures are putting fear into people is for Profit $$$$$$$$$$$. When Owners that are willing to test the Standard can buy Distilled Water at $0.59 PG Plus lower the Risk of DEF problems, some are willing to take, its that,delete or Sell and Buy Gas.
 
I had dinner last night with my stepson who is the number two guy with a large wholesale muffler company. He said the EPA is really stepping up their enforcement against deleting. They receive notice that the the EPA is going to come on sight to review all their records regarding purchase and sale of exhaust system components going back several years. His recommendation is for anyone deleting, you better hang onto everything removed!!!

My BIL has a deleted 2008, and Arizona would not license it, so he went to SD. SIL says FEDS are going to be pressuring all states to enforce their rules. Stay tuned(sic)!!
 
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Here's my comment on another Site Yesterday.

Yep. TC was Audited for compliance July 19, We sell modified hard Parts EPA complaint. We were audited Before, what save us every component is re-label For TC, or II ( Indusial Injection ) sold on our Titles ,We remove all other makers IDs, even Serial #s on Modded injectors and place our marking and serial #s.

The auditors have pointed out if any part(s) remove's any component label as emission compliant we will be subject to judicial subpoenas.

It took us 2 years just to Get CDX #s its an ugly costly time consuming process, I glad I did it thou.

I agree With Boostn , its only time Before GDE ( anyone) is served with Audited Investigations...its only time before the moles purchase NON- complaint Tune and that will give the EPA the legal Subpoena's.

We do Around $1 million , Size has No input on their compliance mandates. Any Shop , Maker , Tuner, installer makes no difference
 
Here's a copy and paste (the horror! reliable data be damned!) from Cummins:

https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/sites/default/files/MB10033.pdf

Q. Is the 32.5% urea solution critical?
A. Yes, The 32.5% urea concentration is the ideal solution as it provides the lowest freeze point. Also, SCR systems will be calibrated to the 32.5%, so that optimum NOx will be reduced during operation.

(this appears to be a good reason in and of itself)
Q. What is the freeze point of DEF?
A. A 32.5% solution of DEF will begin to crystallize and freeze at 12 deg F (-11 deg C). At 32.5%, both the urea and water will freeze at the same rate, ensuring that as it thaws, the fluid does not become diluted, or over concentrated. The freezing and thawing of DEF will not cause degradation of the product.


....and lastly,

Q. Can I make DEF myself? A. Cummins Filtration does not recommend customers make DEF themselves. DEF has strict requirements for maintaining concentration and purity of ingredients that is critical to the proper functioning and longevity of the SCR system. Cummins and other OEMs require that DEF used with their SCR systems meet all ISO22241 specifications as well as API certification requirements. It is recommended that end users purchase certified DEF and avoid blending it themselves. For more information about the quality standards, refer to ISO22241 which details specifications for DEF quality, handling, testing, transportation storage, and refilling

That said, I realize you have some of your own anecdotal results, I get that, good for you. I could understand the effort and reasoning behind finding a solution to an existing problem, my issue is.......You seem to have a solution looking for a problem!

The very large majority of people don't have this problem, and I would say, the concentration of DEF is NOT the root cause of any of the problems you are attempting to address. The problem with anecdotal evidence is that your results could be purely coincidental.

Further, while you'd likely never get caught, I'm sure this could be construed as violating CAA requirements as "tampering with emission devices", since you are not using the system as designed.

In summary, all those reasons, combined with no evidence that DEF concentration is the ROOT CAUSE of the problem, seems to be a silly endeavor. However, you are free to do it! It's probably just best as a business owner to not talk about it too much.....and.....not come on a truck forum and promote it and imply the industry is wrong and foolish. The API guy you heckled probably didn't know the answer off the top of his head and was kind of dumbfounded with your Michael Moore style question. There's certainly no concentration conspiracy here....it sounds like they may have actually put some thought into it.
 
Just more Paste and copy KT.....Like always.

So BlueTech Engines with DEF equipment are less problematic....remove Your Blinders.

I did the testing and have been using the methods I prefer for over 6 years. They are NOT Illegal ,just and Option You seem to opt out of.

According to KT who claims that his Data is solidly base supports his agenda and Opinion, and is not willing to put forth 0 efforts ( Paste and copy ) is not effort.

Its best not to be dumfounded by supporting The Keystroke Paste and Copy King's.

You seem to have problems understanding the WORD recommend " put forward (someone or something) with approval as being suitable for a particular purpose or role" its just NOT recommended.

You twist up every comment to fit your Agenda.

By the way % only lowers the freeze point , the % freezes and thaw at the same rate only the temp changes at Higher percentage and max out 10-12F.
 
The 20 has nothing to do with 2020 it has to do with the particular year plus one . If it happened to be 19 on the box ,it would of been manufactured in 2018. Unless Peak explained it wrong .
 
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