07 Possible Changes In Motor! ?

[DWestfall]

I thought I would inform you of what I just learned -----or not! I see this black 06 quad cab 4x4, no badges with manufactuer plate on it with 4" exhaust. The guy is sitting in it while wife is on phone. So I walk up and ask him what does he got under the hood. So he allows me to look. Nothing but an early 06 Cummins, plastic intercooler caps, etc. . Upon further pressing about future v8 or mercedes, he shut right up. I specifically asked him if a v8 was in the future or if a mercedes was in store. He smiled and said "I cant say, but expect changes". He said he worked for truck development & engineering. The fact that he didnt out right deny a v8 or mercedes makes you wonder. The sad thing was that this truck was headed for the scrap heap when he was done with it. Maybe you know all about all of this just thought I would post what I was told ..... or not told.

 

[JasonCzerak]

I thought I would inform you of what I just learned -----or not! I see this black 06 quad cab 4x4, no badges with manufactuer plate on it with 4" exhaust. The guy is sitting in it while wife is on phone. So I walk up and ask him what does he got under the hood. So he allows me to look. Nothing but an early 06 Cummins, plastic intercooler caps, etc. . Upon further pressing about future v8 or mercedes, he shut right up. I specifically asked him if a v8 was in the future or if a mercedes was in store. He smiled and said "I cant say, but expect changes". He said he worked for truck development & engineering. The fact that he didnt out right deny a v8 or mercedes makes you wonder. The sad thing was that this truck was headed for the scrap heap when he was done with it. Maybe you know all about all of this just thought I would post what I was told ..... or not told.

It's sad that they are junked like that. My last job (event production company) we dealt with all the big three + bmw, audi, and a few others). We were doing a SRT-10 show in texas (i think). all pre-production trucks. When they were done, shipped back to MI, 10 of them scrapped. there's goes 500,000 and 5000HP.



I never did figure out how to get the "scrapped" parts. I think they crush the cars, so all the parts are rather useless.

 

[Huskerman]

If Dodge goes to a V-8 diesel, this will be my last Dodge for sure. V-8 Diesels have some inherent disadvantages over an inline configuration so I might as well buy a Ford next time.



I don't claim to be an engine designer but there MUST be a reason that all the heavy duty diesels I have worked around in my life have been in an in-line configuration. Whether it was a generator or a 35-ton dumptruck it was always inline.



Huskerman

 

[Bob4x4]

Cummins has both v-6 and v-8 engines installed and testing them in 1/2 ton dodge trucks,they have been seen and driven by members. They are designed for fuel economy not towing. They have not been bought up yet by any manufaturers yet,at least not in public.



Bob

 

[nickleinonen]

Nothing but an early 06 Cummins, plastic intercooler caps, etc

did they bring back the plactic tanked intercooler they got rid of mid 05 model year???

 

[DWestfall]

I asked him about this his comment was only that this was an early 06 version. so maybe they were just throwing parts together to test this truck. He also stated that the frame was different which this was the first I heard of it. They made a lot of changes that arent quite apparent mostly to do with better crash capabilities, he said.

 

[Parks]

If you look in issue 49 under Technical Topics, you will be able to see what will be happening to the 07 engines.

A Mercedes diesel engine is not in the future for Dodge trucks. That rumor seams to never go away.

 

[ohnoitsyu]

did they bring back the plactic tanked intercooler they got rid of mid 05 model year???

My 06 has aluminum caps.

 

[klenger]

It's because Ford owns Cummins.

 

[2Gen3Gen]

It's because Ford owns Cummins.

And I belive in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny

:-laf :-laf :-laf Yup, we all know that Ford has a slice of Cummins but... I highly doubt that a V8 will be in the next Dodge truck. If so, This will also be my last Dodge

 

[LDobie]

Cummins has both v-6 and v-8 engines installed and testing them in 1/2 ton dodge trucks,they have been seen and driven by members. They are designed for fuel economy not towing. They have not been bought up yet by any manufaturers yet,at least not in public.



Bob

http://www.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/pdfs/deer_2004/session9/2004_deer_stang2.pdf



Those are 2 Bad Boy motors right there, I've been begging the Diesel God's that we'll see those in '07 or '08 in the Half Ton HD's. Mate that 5. 6 er to the G56 with a normal flywheel :-laf with 3. 73's and you'd have the perfect lighter duty truck, for us guys who don't pull real big trailers, but don't want a big gasser.



Those two Vee diesels should hump effortlessly any load that 90% of truck owners would routinely haul, look at the power and torque #'s. 300/460 for the prototype 5. 6L. Wasn't my uncle's '99 CTD rated at like 440 on the torque. Granted the 5. 9 CTD makes its torque at probably 600-800 rpm less, but those Vee's are smokin quick too (great for us wanna be hot rodders :-laf )



The future is looking good, I'm excited to see how things unwravel.

 

[Bob4x4]

http://www.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/pdfs/deer_2004/session9/2004_deer_stang2.pdf



Those are 2 Bad Boy motors right there, I've been begging the Diesel God's that we'll see those in '07 or '08 in the Half Ton HD's. Mate that 5. 6 er to the G56 with a normal flywheel :-laf with 3. 73's and you'd have the perfect lighter duty truck, for us guys who don't pull real big trailers, but don't want a big gasser.



Those two Vee diesels should hump effortlessly any load that 90% of truck owners would routinely haul, look at the power and torque #'s. 300/460 for the prototype 5. 6L. Wasn't my uncle's '99 CTD rated at like 440 on the torque. Granted the 5. 9 CTD makes its torque at probably 600-800 rpm less, but those Vee's are smokin quick too (great for us wanna be hot rodders :-laf )



The future is looking good, I'm excited to see how things unwravel.

Yes the v motors in the prototypes were hot. The tires would light up on launch and not stop unless you lifted Oo.



Bob

 

[Davey]

I don't see a vee config for the HD rams, and I welcome any diesel powertrain in different platforms just because I won't drive a gas job anymore, unless it's a vette or viper.

 

[LDobie]

Yes the v motors in the prototypes were hot. The tires would light up on launch and not stop unless you lifted Oo.



Bob

OOOOOO, do tell more Bob, do you have some inside info?? Hopefully DC does the right thing and expands the options for Diesels, offer something that will cover most everyone's needs and wants. I agree, we won't see a Vee in a 2500/3500 HD, why would they ever mess up such a wonderful thing that they have now??



Oh yeah, how naive of me; it seems like just about anytime we get our hopes up, we get dissapointed by stupid moves by the corporate exec's and bean counters :-laf



I'm in the Lake George region, for the gentleman who asked. I've got a buddy in Lowville, I like the snow up there...

 

[PToombs]

It's because Ford owns Cummins.

Didn't you hear? Cummins got so sick of this rumor that they bought Ford to shut up the half-wits spreading it!

I talked to a guy who knows somebody at DC, they said mercedes in '07. I think i'll wait and see.

You guys in NY should come to the picnic oct 1st in syr. https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138935

'Nuff hijackin

 

[redfuelrules]

I'm not buying another one if they go to mercedes--please let me rephrase, if they go to a v8 mercedes--and I don't think that they'll change over this soon. Very happy with my 05.



Lets hope that Dodge and Cummins appreciate the support made evident by participation within the TDR, and continue to improve upon a great product.

 

[cmills]

Mercedes

I talked to a guy who is in charge of a school bus fleet and he said they have a few buses with Mercedes in them and he says they are the best engines they have, which includes international,Cummins and he said cat although I didn't know they put cats in school buses. Although he did say he didn't know the long term reliabilty since they hadn't had them that long.



He said they have the best power and fuel economy. I'm in no way saying they are better or worse than any others, I'm just telling what I was told.

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

I'm in the Lake George region.

Not to steal the thread, but I'm down off of the exit 18 area just south of you.

 

[RTuvell]

IMHO the big news for the 07 model year won't be about the engine itself but instead what they will have to do to meet the new super stringent emission limits such as particulate traps, urea tanks for NOX catalyst regeneration, and problematic programming of the computer controls.

 

[Jim Smith]

Test trucks are test trucks. There are a lot of liability questions with these vehicles and therefore must be scrapped. DCX reitree