+100HP WITH DIABLO PUCK

[GWS]

A local mechanic who drives a powerstroke is now selling Diablo products. He told me the power puck for the 24V has a downloadable program that can tune the puck to produce gains of up to 100 HP. I know the stock puck gives about as much hp/tq as the VA, but I was surprised to hear that 100 horses was possible especially while staying within the ecm pump programming limits as these things claim to do. Comments?

 

[HeberRam]

Gws... I've tested the power puck! It's a piece of CRA-*. Stay with the EZ or VA.

 

[Bob Riley]

Guys, I am not the dealer in question the poster was talking about, but I am a dealer for Diablo. The 100hp program is not available yet. At the moment, it is 60hp and 160lbs. At present, I have had no returns or complaints at all with the puck. I do know the puck was sold to the Edge by another dealer in Utah and they have been spreading this stuff, like in the last post, with no back-up to it.
We will be at the Orlando Dodge on Sat and whoever wants to try it can do so. I certainly won't make outrageous claims that it is far superior to anything out there, but to call it "crap" is shows obvious intent.

As far as the Ford boys, Diablo sells more chips than many chip co all combined. It all percentages. If you saw the problems from this end, you would see what I'm talking about. I know of one wharehouse where 3000 chips a month move out of and 15 are problems. You just don't hear from all the good ones, besides most of them don't post much anyway. You know how it is. Heck, good example is Banks. Very seldom do you hear how great someone likes their products, yet you hear complaints all the time. By this, you would think no-one would buy their products and they would be out of business very quickly. As you know, this is not the case. They make super stuff and are a giant in the diesel market. It's percentages folks, sell more, you will have more complainers.
Bob

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[Sean Flanagan]

Rob,

I couldn't agree with you more. If an uninformed soul visited this board or the Ford board, they would never buy a Diesel Powered Pickup.

 

[Bart Timothy]

I've never tried the "puck" and have no personal knowledge of it, but I doubt Edge has said anything bad about it. If Edge did test it and says thumbs down, that's all I need to know. Those guys are very sincere, knowledgeable, do very thoruogh testing, and don't have one lying bone in their culmative bodies.

 

[Bob Riley]

Bart,
I didn't mean to say Edge themselves has said anything bad. The ones we know of were the dealers for them. The edge had bought it thru some dealer out there and he has caused a lot of problems. I don't have feedback from the co yet.
Bob

PS. I just got word I will have the new high output Puck on Sat as well. I look forward to haveing some guys try it and give feedback. Real feedback. #ad



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[This message has been edited by Bob Riley (edited 03-01-2001). ]

 

[Barry]

Is the "Puck" and the "Torque Dog" one in the same?

 

[Bob Riley]

Originally posted by Barry:
Is the "Puck" and the "Torque Dog" one in the same?

Never heard of the TD. I am not aware of them private labeling it yet, and since I have personally seen the production of the Puck, I do know it is not private labeled.

I would assume they are different animals.
Bob


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[HeberRam]

Rob Riley... Read my lips!!! I'm the guy that tested the proto-type of the puck here in Utah, against the VA,and Edge EZ... Unless There has been a marked inprovement the thing is a piece of "CRAP"!!! If you want me to R & D the new one send it to me free, and I'll test it on my truck. Hell, I'll even Dyno it here in Utah and compare it with the VA & EZ.
If it does, or even comes close to what the
manufacture says I'll eat crow!!!
p. s. I do have back-up! do your homework and research the archives and you may learn something.

 

[Bob Riley]

Heber,
From what I was told, you were a Edge dealer? No, then ok. I didn't mean to start a fight, just helping the original poster.
Yes, there is a whole different unit than the original, if that's the one you had. I know for a fact that 600 units have sold and 10 have been returned for any reason. All I know is that is pretty good odds.
Why is it if someone wants to try something, somebody has to chime in and act like if it didn't work for him, anyone else who tried it would be an idiot for even trying. I'm sure the dealer he is buying from will give him a money back guarrantee.
Like I said, anyone who is coming to the Orlando event is welcome to try it.
Bob

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[HeberRam]

Bob Riley... I am a general building contractor, and not affliliated with any vendor, reseller of performance products etc. I am a performance nut like some of our members and do it for a hobby. My opinions are strickly my personal experiences, and performance expectations based on manufacture claims. My offer still stands, if you want me to R&D the "NEW" puck, I will give you an honest report. If the product meets the claims, I will endorse it totally... However, if it fails ,well, we probably don't want to go there. Are you and Diablo up to the challenge???

p. s. I promise to return it when and if I get a chance to test it. By the way we have several other members in my area that would also like to try it, and would be willing to give you their independent evaluation.

 

[Bob Riley]

Herber,
I'm always up to something like that. Let me wait till after the weekend. I would like to see this perform for myself before I ship it. I'm sure someone will let me plug it in. Fair?
Bob

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[HeberRam]

Rob... That's fair. . You're a real Diablo "sport" kind of guy. E-mail me after you have had a chance to try out and let me know your thoughts... We need to keep the rest of the TDR members in suspense.

 

[BigYellowIron]

Me and my friend tried a puck, Could not tell any difference at all, waste of money in my book.

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[Sky]

Bob whats the "HO" puck (100 hp) gonna run for $$$$?

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[TowPro]

I vote we quite bashing the product until we see some real numbers and test results of the software release that's now available.

The whole idea of being able to download different programs into it is one up on everybody else.

Who ever gets to test it hopefully will report their findings in an unbiased (and gentlemen like) format, with suggestions on how to make it better if they don't find it to there liking. (Several test including stock trucks would be nice) Keep in mind they are comparing it to 2 devices. One has a boost module and one does not which will make a difference in some applications.

Were consumers here, and there's room for another product like this in the market. We all know competition drives down prices and leads to better products!
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[This message has been edited by TowPro (edited 03-02-2001). ]

 

[Barry]

I was told that the "Puck" and the "Torque Dog" were one in the same. I tried the "Torque Dog" and sent it back the next day. Got my refund check in the mail yesterday.

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[Bob Riley]

Originally posted by TowPro:
I vote we quite bashing the product until we see some real numbers and test results of the software release that's now available.

The whole idea of being able to download different programs into it is one up on everybody else.

Who ever gets to test it hopefully will report their findings in an unbiased (and gentlemen like) format, with suggestions on how to make it better if they don't find it to there liking. (Several test including stock trucks would be nice) Keep in mind they are comparing it to 2 devices. One has a boost module and one does not which will make a difference in some applications.

Were consumers here, and there's room for another product like this in the market. We all know competition drives down prices and leads to better products!
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Thank you. I hope to get some reveiws this weekend. And obviously, it will be from guys from your site. We'll see how it comes out.

Herber, you had the original silver puck, correct? That thing was the prototype of the prototype. Many design changes since then.


Barry, I found out this morning that they are private labeled. The fact that they are tunable means that only the hardware is the same. Unless you get it with the Diablo name on it, it can be anything. Diablo sells the tuning software so other manufacturers can make their own files.

Guys, I seriously want to know how it performs compared to others on the market. I am not going to boldly say it's the best unit made. I can't make that claim yet. The only claim I have made is lack of complaints yet. Whether those people have anything to compare to, I can't tell you. I think you'll see, at least I'm honest.

The other thing is the high output version is for the HO Cummins. The regualr unit will not work properly in a HO engine. That may account for those that tried it and said they didn't notice much? Just a thought. Herber, what engine do you have?

I won't quote prices here as I know the mods won't like it and I didn't come here as an advertiser, but to help in a question. If this thing does perform well to some of your expectataions, I would consider the advertising on the site.
Bob




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[Bob Wagner]

<fontcolor=red>Bob Riley do you own a diesel powered pickup?</font> #ad

 

[Bob Riley]

Yes, a PSD. Would it matter? #ad

Bob

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