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Imills - What or were is the drop in 5mic filter; i'm looking to get a FASS system, but have to read up some more, anyone have pic's of what they have done to their CTD'S?

with a FASS system: how much, were to buy etc, etc. Thanks before hand...

Eric '03 QC 6SPD SLT SWB SRW LIMITED 4X4 WHITE 49K
 
As a former GM Duramax owner I can tell you from experience on the GM sites that the 2 micron filter mod did not seem to put a stop to the early 2001/2002 injector failures. Many, many owners have reported injector failures even with 2 micron filtration.



It wasn't the filter that helped GMs failure rate..... it was an injector redesign. Even with that it's still an issue.



With that said, I do believe that better filtration is smart.



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On the 04, I run the Walbro pump, with a 2-micron Perma-cool filter/water separator between the stock filter and the cp-3.



On the 96, I just run the stock filter. The dinosaur doesn't care. :D
 
I've called Bosch technical and waiting on a engineer to call me back. I asked about the micron rating on THEIR filters on HPCR used in BOAT and GENERATOR applications.
 
MFalkinham said:
This vendor is claiming their filter works down to 1-micron. Hard to believe, but it costs $97 on sale!



http://store. avlube.com/inprfufi.html



That filter is "for FUEL TANK DISPENSER installations. "



I will say that site's owner is one VERY knowledgable fellow. He spent loads of time posting on the GM sites about filtration issues, never pushing product. He usually goes by georgecls on the forums.



I buy his diesel fuel additive... Primrose PowerMaster 405. I am happy to report that in 5 years of driving the new high pressure common rail diesels... . Duramax and the Cummins, I have yet to have a fuel system problem.



Mike
 
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DPKetchum said:
I've called Bosch technical and waiting on a engineer to call me back. I asked about the micron rating on THEIR filters on HPCR used in BOAT and GENERATOR applications.



I like your back door approach. Smart thinking. I will be going to SEMA agian this year, I will see if I can get some documentation from them.
 
Called me back at 5 p. m. and said he had no info on the micron ratings and gave me a phone number to R&D. Called and was closed. Will call them this A. M. I did not want them to think I was looking for small U. S. built truck application. They use HPCR in MANY applications according to the MANY WEB pages and info I found on Bosch. Of course now the NEW bigger/better injector system they discuss is going to be used on the new Ford 6. 4
 
DPKetchum said:
Called me back at 5 p. m. and said he had no info on the micron ratings and gave me a phone number to R&D. Called and was closed. Will call them this A. M. I did not want them to think I was looking for small U. S. built truck application. They use HPCR in MANY applications according to the MANY WEB pages and info I found on Bosch. Of course now the NEW bigger/better injector system they discuss is going to be used on the new Ford 6. 4





So did Ford finally cave in and go with the HPCR Bosch system?? If so so it was about emissions
 
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Yes and more control of the fuel delivery. Its going to be a HPCR with a differant type of crystal injector(electrionicly charged) thats capable of up to 5 fire events in miliseconds. Plus LESS internaly moving parts. (in the injector itself) They also have apprently been used/tried etc. in other applications in Uganda or where ever. (joke) Bosch has a write up about this type of injector. Came across it in my search for micron ratings and phone numbers.
 
Just got woke from my afternoon nap(old folks do this) my cell phone ringing,Bosch R&D. He said its 5 miron to absolute. I said thanks.
 
You can't have a 2 micron absolute. It would have to be a big as a gallon size if not larger. A 2 micron absolute the size of our stock filter would have major difficulty flowing and would need to br replaced far too frequently.



Any fuel filter that would work on our trucks can be 2 micron but not 100% 2 micron... 100% meaning absolute. They will catch particles in the 2 micron range but not all of them.
 
I installed the Glacier Diesel Power 2 micron fuel filter and the 20 micron fuel/water seperator filter with the fuel canister eliminator manifold which removed my stock fuel filter canister entirely.



The system works very well. I did not see any drop in lift pump pressure; my mechanical fuel pressure gauge is mounted after both fuel filters, right before the CP3.
 
If you get the specs on that 2 micron filter it will read in percentages what size particles it captures.



It will not capture 100% of all 2 micron particles. The better ones I believe are 2 microns at about 60% efficiency but varies greatly depending on filter application and manufacturer. Don't hold that number against me as it's been a while since I was involved in the research.



This comes from http://www.parker.com/



A filter that is marked “10 microns” has some capability

in capturing particles as small as 10 microns. However,

there is no one accepted method to measure and

describe the size of particles that a filter can capture

or the total amount of particles that the filter can

hold. When you see the filter marked “10 microns”,

you will not know exactly what this means unless you

also have a description of the test and standards used

to determine the filter rating. Filter micron ratings are

often based on one of these methods, but with many

possible variations:



A. Nominal Micron Rating (NMR)

NMR usually means the filter can capture a

given percentage of particles of the stated size.

For example, a filter might be said to have a

nominal rating of 90% at 10 micron.



B. Absolute Micron Rating (AMR)

AMR is a single pass test and is obtained by

passing fluid containing glass beads through

a flat sheet of filter material. Any beads that

pass through are captured and measured.



C. Multi-Pass Beta Rating (MPBR)

The MPBR has been accepted by many

machinery manufacturers, as well as filter

manufacturers (but not used in a public way by

most of them to identify or specify their filters),

especially for filters used in fluid power

applications; hydraulics, controls, transmissions,

power steering and so forth.

Single/Multi-Pass tests use contaminant specially

graded by particle sizes added regularly in measured

quantities to the fluid which is pumped continuously

through the filter. Measured samples of fluid are taken

at timed intervals upstream and downstream of the

filter. The contaminant in these samples is measured

for particle sizes and the quantity of each size or

ranges of sizes.



Filtration Efficiency

Fuel filters are supplied for various applications and,

therefore, there is a need for different levels of filtration

efficiency in the removal or retention of particles. The

hydraulic industry uses a rating method that uses the

term “Beta Ratio” to describe a filtration efficiency

level. The diesel fuel filtration industry generally uses

simple filtration efficiency as the method of rating a

fuel filter. Since there is no such thing as a fuel that

provides absolute filtration of the particle sizes that

are cause for concern, the industry uses terms like 96%

at 5 microns. This term means, that when tested to

SAE or ISO test methods the filter will retain 96%

of all 5 micron size and larger particles.




Some suggestions:

1. Use filters of high quality.

2. Obtain filters by catalog listing, not just by

“micron rating”. Other important qualities

should also be considered.

3. Pay close attention to service intervals and good

service practices for best economy of operation.
 
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Caterpillar has 2 micron-rated "High-Efficiency" fuel filters, available for their engines. I've got one installed on my auxillary, in-bed 115 gal. fuel tank. It works great.



This filter is about 10-1/2 " long & wider than the our stock filters, which, are 4" long & skinnier. This filter cross-referenced to a Fleetguard filter mount.



Joe F. (Buffalo)
 
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